Reply With QuoteNot sure it's necessary to forgive him for his mistake, but ... that other stuff ... no.
Yes- we need a solid coach that knows us to transition
Yes- he can give us some stability short term
No- we need to hire a new guy immediately and move forward
Hell no- his time has passed
make him the HC for 2015-2016...and allow him to hire a "coach in waiting" to take over in a year or two?
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Not sure it's necessary to forgive him for his mistake, but ... that other stuff ... no.
I forgave him a LONG time ago.
He's already working for the university, so I'd say he's already forgiven
Hire him before halftime is over.
It was some great times when we were in the Final 4. Seems like an eternity now.Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
why hire him? In 12 seasons he only won 20 games 3 times. only made the ncaa tourney 3 times and missed the post season entirely 7 times.
You're right, but he does have a deep understanding of college basketball, he loves the game, and he loves to coach.
All that sounds pretty dang good right now
I would have kept him from the get go if he had chose to stay.
There WAS that little thing called the Final Four though. What Williams inherited was worse than what Ray inherited, way worse. It's hard to overstate just how far Williams took us. I was a season ticket holder and rarely missed a game back then. It was something to behold, the transformation under Williams.
Do you realize how bad we were when he was hired?
Just thinking out loud here. Maybe we are even considering this because of the 'quiet' circumstances in which he left. Meaning there wasn't some wild media frenzy that embarrassed the university.
Assuming that's true, there were probably some stipulations that made that possible. Most likely one was that there would be no reunion, ever. If I were the one of the involved parties, that would have been one of mine. Of course, another one would have involved a baseball bat.
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Because our program was much worse then than it is now when he was hired. He also led us to a Sweet 16 and then a FF the next year- something Stands never sniffed
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Richard Williams would be an afterthought in MSU history without the talent Rick Stansbury brought in. Having a deep understanding of the game and loving to coach are all well and good, but it's difficult for anybody to do it to level you guys expect without talent. Especially Richard Williams.
We need to do this the right way. At the end of the season. Just make a change and move on.
Williams won an SEC title with the talent he brought in before Stands ever set foot on campus...stop being an idiot
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While that's technically true, Richard Williams' records before Stansbury got to campus looked a whole lot like Rick Ray's. Richard Williams wouldn't improve this team one iota.
The point remains that calls to remove Rick Ray right now are short-sighted and senseless.
No but it couldn't be as bad as it is currently.
Surely to goodness Ray is gone at the end of the year, and Stricklin better be getting either his short list and feelers out or resignation ready.
You really got to be joking about bringing Richard back.
Last edited by shannondawg; 12-20-2014 at 06:47 PM.
No he doesn't. He doesn't realize a lot of things.
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