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    Quote Originally Posted by WPDawg View Post
    Appears Mullen is working on us being better this year and next year and years to come by playing as many as he can. Theoretically, if you can give as many reps as possible to more people, then you are fresher in the 4th quarter and late in the season. And it does make you deeper for injuries and prepares the younger guys for years to come. Plus the more playing time for more than the top 22 makes for better camaraderie team wide which I think is a big reason we are where we are at. So what he is doing is working and is building a team that can compete year in year out.

    If you are an instant gratification beatem by 4 TDs every game this year person, his plan will drive you crazy. If you can go with the flow and let his plan work out, we may be good for more than 1 "flash in the pan" year. Enjoy the ride of being considered the best team in the land.....
    The point that some people seem to be missing is that no one argues that we should roll players thru, it's the means by which we are doing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MemphisDawg21 View Post
    Well at least we haven't given up a 90+ pass play... so that is a "silver lining"
    Well at least we took LSU to the "woodshed"..

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    They may make us forfeit a game if we keep giving up these passing plays.***

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    Ifyouonlyknew has it correct. Against Kentucky, we had B. Brown and McKinney in there with the 1b DL. We mix and match the substitutions as the game goes on. I honestly think Cox needs to play until he passes out. We should never have Coman and Evans in at the same time. Too much inexperience back there when they are in the game together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluelightstar View Post


    Unreal that we have given up 16 passing plays of 50 yards or more.
    Well when you have Coman and Evans covering WR that shit kinda happens. My stomach turns when I see them in the game

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    Speaking of Will Redmond, he played one hell of a game against KY.

    I like the play where he turned to look for the ball while boxing the WR out which his body and driving the WR closer to the sidelines. That's next level shit that our Super Bowl champion DB coach, Deshea Townsend, must be teaching him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluelightstar View Post


    Unreal that we have given up 16 passing plays of 50 yards or more.
    Come on son. Sheriff Buford T. Justice and Junior are smarter than that. Read the chart again.

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    In the 2nd half up 7 without the ball, 1a had two dominating 3 and outs when we needed it. Preston, Euells, Ryan Brown and Chris Jones smothered Towles on those series and subbing early had to have contributed to that.

    I'm thinking all this subbing will benefit us on whole as we make the stretch run as well. Our guys have basically played four games so far in terms of number of plays played if you'll accept a macro argument here.
    Last edited by Schultzy; 10-27-2014 at 05:45 PM. Reason: Added two

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    How did players play a whole game for the last 100 years? Sometimes both ways.***
    Last edited by IMissJack; 10-27-2014 at 06:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMissJack View Post
    How did players play a whole game for the last 100 years? Sometimes both ways.
    Still have some high school kids going both ways. It's outrageous that this can still happen and put these players at risk of injury. The new idea in Football is that the players don't need to get hurt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bo Darville View Post
    Come on son. Sheriff Buford T. Justice and Junior are smarter than that. Read the chart again.
    Whoops, I borrowed the stat and didn't verify. My professors in Math & Stats would definitely be disappointed

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDawg View Post
    That's kind of silly. Not picking on you, but I have seen numerous posts like this. Is our FG kicking working b/c we are no. 1? You have to address your weaknesses. We still have our toughest 2 games to play at UA and at OM. And hopefully a trip to Atlanta and the 4 team playoff. We need to get better on D and I think it's mainly a substition issue. We shouldn't be playing 9 DB's. And I cringe seeing Beni Brown and BMac on the sideline.
    It isn't a weakness. It's a substitution issue, as you said, which is easily taken care of...by substituting differently, as we have in our 3 big games.

    Good grief, people. These are the exact same arguments we had after our first 3 games. Then what did we do? Changed it up and dominated 3 straight tough games. We will change things; Kentucky isn't Alabama, and our coaches aren't stupid.

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    Are we seriously discussing this again? Do you really think for one minute that Coaches Mullen, Hevesy,Collins, et al will leave one single player on the field that is not giving his absolute most intense effort and and concentration for more than one play at Bryant-Denny you are absolutely nuts. The coaching staff will know who they can and can't trust before they step foot on that field and they will only allow those that they trust to participate. Besides the coaching staff, I don't think that Dak, Kaleb, Tony, Redmond, Preston, JRob, DDay, Beckwith, McKinney ( all extremely intense leaders ) will allow the "1B's" to be anything less than "1A" on that night or in the Egg Bowl as well for that matter. So quit worrying about the "1B's" or the def.secondary for that matter, they all know what is at stake and the leadership and effort will be intense.
    So for now, let us just concentrate on UPig and get past that one, then the second season will begin in earnest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MabenMaroon View Post
    Are we seriously discussing this again? Do you really think for one minute that Coaches Mullen, Hevesy,Collins, et al will leave one single player on the field that is not giving his absolute most intense effort and and concentration for more than one play at Bryant-Denny you are absolutely nuts. The coaching staff will know who they can and can't trust before they step foot on that field and they will only allow those that they trust to participate. Besides the coaching staff, I don't think that Dak, Kaleb, Tony, Redmond, Preston, JRob, DDay, Beckwith, McKinney ( all extremely intense leaders ) will allow the "1B's" to be anything less than "1A" on that night or in the Egg Bowl as well for that matter. So quit worrying about the "1B's" or the def.secondary for that matter, they all know what is at stake and the leadership and effort will be intense.
    So for now, let us just concentrate on UPig and get past that one, then the second season will begin in earnest.

    Coaches can be stubborn. See Perkins over J-Rob as Exhibit A. Or Eulls at DE for 2 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMissJack View Post
    How did players play a whole game for the last 100 years? Sometimes both ways.***
    Very tired and on the losing end of the scoreboard. Depth issues are the reason for our lopsided series records against our SEC opponents over the decades, not the starting 22.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDawg View Post
    Coaches can be stubborn. See Perkins over J-Rob as Exhibit A. Or Eulls at DE for 2 years.
    You mean the two SEC POW's, JRob flipped a switch during the off-season ( in terms of work ethic and development ) by both his own and the coach's admissions. Kaleb at that point in time was where we needed him didn't really have a whole lot of options. It seems to have worked itself out.

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    You have to play 15 games to win the national championship so we are not even halfway through our season so I say starters getting rest while we win the game is a good thing, no matter what the final score is. I would like to see us dominate UTM and Vandy and get Dak and some of the OL some rest during the stretch run.

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    Has anyone mentioned that recruiting wise we can also sell early playing time to guys? Even if they are not the starter they can still see valuable minutes their first year if they are good enough. On most teams you are the starter or bust. Ten WRs have TDs. Backup OL get snaps. This has to help in recruiting.
    Death penalty or bust!!!***

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    Look I know this has been argued over & over. But if you want PROOF. Look no further than UM's defense. They are so banged up on defense because they have NO depth. With our 1a's only playing 60% of the snaps not only are they still fresh right now. But they stand a 40% LESS of a chance of getting injured because they aren't on the field. Plus these IN game moments Coman, Evans, Cleavland etc etc are getting will better prepare them for success next year when they MUST play! Plus as someone said earlier we can sell recruits that they can play meaningful snaps as a true freshman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bo Darville View Post
    Come on son. Sheriff Buford T. Justice and Junior are smarter than that. Read the chart again.
    been waiting for someone to point that out...

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