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    We are #10 and are 4th in west. Brutal. Just Brutal.

    I love being in the SEC West... But I'd also love to just once see how we'd fair in the SEC East, or with a team like FSU's schedule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Treemydawg View Post
    ing from, but Dan makes the most stupid in game decisions of any coach I have ever saw make a decision.
    I take it you didn't experience the Croom years

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    Quote Originally Posted by Covercorner2 View Post
    Yep. It's amazing what happens when you take away bias, history, recruiting rankings and perception away and actually look at things objectively. We are the most underrated team in college football...
    Been trying to tell a bear buddy this all off season. If you took the names away from all teams and looked strictly at last year's stats and records, and who had what players returning (factoring experience and depth), that we should be ranked much higher than the bears pre-season. He, along with some fellow Dawgs, couldn't seem to fathom how I could say we should be perceived by the medial to be the better of the two teams, coming into the season. But we know who wins the press conference, and it puts us behind the 8 ball to start the season. A few more performances in a row, like this past saturday, will have us positioned nicely to make a run.

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    The media wants to see us against top 25 team before anointing us. I do too. They are still scared of us falling apart when we go through LSU, ATM, Aub.
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    I agree that we are the most underrated team in the west . This team has talent flowing out of its ears, but if Dan doesn't stop the dumbass personell decisions that he has made in past years we are all in for a huge let down. IE Perkins up the middle, Bell kicking 40yd field goal attempts after he has proven he can't make them, and bringing in the second team saturday on the third drive .I want the absolute best for this team and THE MISSISSIPPI STATE UNIVERSITY. Y'all can make all the arguments you want, but Dan makes dumbass in game decisions that disrupt the flow that the players have going on between them. He has to keep Dak and the first team on the field and playing together, if not he is hurting the team. I don't understand why y'all can't see this. It has bit us in the ass in years past and will bite us in the ass this year if he keeps making stupid personell decisions. Maybe y'all see things this way because you haven't ever played football. There is a reason you are second team. You aren't good enough or old enough to be first team. Sit down, shut up and ride the bench you don't deserve anything for being second best .

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    The FPI gives us a 48.2% chance of beating LSU. That's way higher than almost any observer, even one with maroon glasses, would give us:

    http://espn.go.com/college-football/...=344&year=2014

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    Quote Originally Posted by Treemydawg View Post
    I agree that we are the most underrated team in the west . This team has talent flowing out of its ears, but if Dan doesn't stop the dumbass personell decisions that he has made in past years we are all in for a huge let down. IE Perkins up the middle, Bell kicking 40yd field goal attempts after he has proven he can't make them, and bringing in the second team saturday on the third drive .I want the absolute best for this team and THE MISSISSIPPI STATE UNIVERSITY. Y'all can make all the arguments you want, but Dan makes dumbass in game decisions that disrupt the flow that the players have going on between them. He has to keep Dak and the first team on the field and playing together, if not he is hurting the team. I don't understand why y'all can't see this. It has bit us in the ass in years past and will bite us in the ass this year if he keeps making stupid personell decisions. Maybe y'all see things this way because you haven't ever played football. There is a reason you are second team. You aren't good enough or old enough to be first team. Sit down, shut up and ride the bench you don't deserve anything for being second best .
    They aren't second team, they're "1B".

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    You deserve time for working your ass off all spring summer and fall and pushing the first team the be the best they can be, dumbass. Stop and think for a minute

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quaoarsking View Post
    The FPI gives us a 48.2% chance of beating LSU. That's way higher than almost any observer, even one with maroon glasses, would give us:

    http://espn.go.com/college-football/...=344&year=2014
    FPI? What is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CadaverDawg View Post
    FPI? What is that?
    Football Power Index. Not sure exactly how it's calculated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Treemydawg View Post
    I agree that we are the most underrated team in the west . This team has talent flowing out of its ears, but if Dan doesn't stop the dumbass personell decisions that he has made in past years we are all in for a huge let down. IE Perkins up the middle, Bell kicking 40yd field goal attempts after he has proven he can't make them, and bringing in the second team saturday on the third drive .I want the absolute best for this team and THE MISSISSIPPI STATE UNIVERSITY. Y'all can make all the arguments you want, but Dan makes dumbass in game decisions that disrupt the flow that the players have going on between them. He has to keep Dak and the first team on the field and playing together, if not he is hurting the team. I don't understand why y'all can't see this. It has bit us in the ass in years past and will bite us in the ass this year if he keeps making stupid personell decisions. Maybe y'all see things this way because you haven't ever played football. There is a reason you are second team. You aren't good enough or old enough to be first team. Sit down, shut up and ride the bench you don't deserve anything for being second best .
    Woah woah woah....I've played football before so you can shut that down.

    #2: So you're saying that there is NO benefit to second team Offense to play meaningful downs in a game early in the season? Dan wanted to see how players would react in a real-game situation as opposed to a practice situation. We all know that there is a huge difference between the two, a la Devon Bell at Kicker. I don't see any harm in having the second team get meaningful snaps early in the season before SEC play. Why not see who all may not have shown out in practice but show out in the game? Also, Chris Jones is TECHNICALLY on the Second Team. So does that mean that he should "Sit down, shut up, and ride the bench"?

    #3: Of all the games to bitch about Dan's in-game decisions you decide to pull the one where we beat an opponent 49-0 and could have done it worse? Really? Dan called one of his most conservative games, FOR A REASON. Also, he already told the team that he was going to put the second team in for the third series because of how well they did in camp. That's motivation for the second team to keep competing during practice. You want your team to get better? Make it a competition for playing time. The better you practice, the more PT you will get. Second team earned the right to get some meaningful PT.

    #4: Sit down, shut up, and know our role Treemydawg.

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    I was thrilled the backups were playing and hope they keep doing it as long as we can. We need linemen to get as many reps as they can... So rejoice every second they are in there.

    Also Williams needs to play because the way that dak is gonna have to play once we play good teams, he is likely to get hurt. Williams needs a reps to be ready.

    Be happy when the 1bs play. It will be worth it in time and it's
    Super smart thing to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CadaverDawg View Post
    FPI? What is that?
    I'll guess something percentage index. That's two out of three words and meatloaf says two out of three ain't bad.

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    Obviously you were on the bench. You don't deserve anything for pushing anybody because you got run over and you are sitting on the bench because you weren't good enough to be 1-a. 1-b isn't all that bad but you don't deserve playing time because YOU AREN'T FIRST TEAM ( 1A)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Treemydawg View Post
    Obviously you were on the bench. You don't deserve anything for pushing anybody because you got run over and you are sitting on the bench because you weren't good enough to be 1-a. 1-b isn't all that bad but you don't deserve playing time because YOU AREN'T FIRST TEAM ( 1A)
    Nope. I was a starting OG. I WORKED my way up to a starting role. Want to know how I improved so much? Actual playing time! WOW!!! Amazing what playing meaningful snaps will do to a player's morale. Also, you're saying Chris Jones (First Team ESPN All-American) doesn't deserve PT because he's 1-B? Gotcha. I'll be sure to relay that to Geoff Collins for you.

    Also, learn to use the quote button.
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    NO NO NO . In no way did I say that there is no benefit in playing the second team in any game . I said it is stupid to play the second team (1-b) offense on the third series of a 7-0 game when your first team (1-a) offense hasn't established itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Treemydawg View Post
    NO NO NO . In no way did I say that there is no benefit in playing the second team in any game . I said it is stupid to play the second team (1-b) offense on the third series of a 7-0 game when your first team (1-a) offense hasn't established itself.
    It didn't really hurt us that much and if there was any game I would have wanted him to do it, it would be the early non-conference games. Is he going to do that playing against an LSU, Bama, Auburn? No. He's smarter than that. Let him let the second team have some fun out there in meaningful snaps. Just relax.
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    I never said a word about defense did I ??? Your adding shit to your argument to make you feel better. I said Dan Mullen makes dumbass in game decisions / personell to put players on the field when they don't need to be. If you think Dak needed to be pulled for any reason to let the (1-b) offense have a drive when the (1-a) offense hasn't established its self or seperated itself from the competition you sir are a dumbass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Treemydawg View Post
    I never said a word about defense did I ??? Your adding shit to your argument to make you feel better. I said Dan Mullen makes dumbass in game decisions / personell to put players on the field when they don't need to be. If you think Dak needed to be pulled for any reason to let the (1-b) offense have a drive when the (1-a) offense hasn't established its self or seperated itself from the competition you sir are a dumbass.
    #1: Personnel.

    http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/f/20...an-d774bf9.jpg

    #2: Did I think Dak needed to be pulled? No. Do I think it harmed us in any way, shape, form, or fashion? Nope. Am I dumbass for thinking this? Not at all. Listen. We get it. You don't like the fact that Dan put the second team in for the third series. Okay. We've got that. But to insult them and say "You're obviously not even close to being good enough to play on first team so you shouldn't touch the field until the game is well in hand," is just asinine. Now I know you didn't explicitly say that, but you implied that and that's how I, and I'm sure others, read it.
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