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    Msu-Osu part 2

    If Osu throws Moore again, I wonder if we stick with frost at 3b and detz dh or go detz 3b and porter dh. I also wonder who will follow pollo. Any thoughts?

    I like the pollo decision BTW. Ucla has made a living pitching up so far

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    Supposedly they arent going to throw Moore
    Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Supposedly they arent going to throw Moore
    Rumor is they are either going with a lefty that is 0-1 with an 8.31 ERA that has barely thrown any this year...or a righty that is 4-1 with a 3.29 ERA... Here's the stat lines for both of them.


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    I am just really glad that they have to beat us twice, and we only have to win once. Those early wins are huge now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Supposedly they arent going to throw Moore
    Bwahaha I sure hope so. Look at that K/BB rate for the righty in Engies post. And the lefty has 4 innings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will James View Post
    Bwahaha I sure hope so. Look at that K/BB rate for the righty in Engies post. And the lefty has 4 innings.
    I'm calling bs. They may start 1 of those, but I think we see more Moore than either

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    I think Ross Mitchell always stands a good chance of pitching, even though they have seen him already. We will have to see about who is DH. Even though not everyone agrees, with Porter it is about more than just stats from a stat log. His vision/eye health is part of the decision making process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will James View Post
    Bwahaha I sure hope so. Look at that K/BB rate for the righty in Engies post. And the lefty has 4 innings.
    I know you don't believe this, but stats don't make every coaching decision. Are you a robot?

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    I wonder if Girodo isn't the first one out of the pen since they haven't seen him yet. I kind of get the feeling it will go Pollo, Girodo, Holder (if it's a save situation).

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    Girodo threw an awful lot of pitches on Monday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PMDawg View Post
    I wonder if Girodo isn't the first one out of the pen since they haven't seen him yet. I kind of get the feeling it will go Pollo, Girodo, Holder (if it's a save situation).

    I may be wrong, but I don't see Cohen going to a second lefty after Pollo. I get a feeling we would see Ben Bracewell go through the order once and then bring back Girodo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaltyDawg View Post
    Girodo threw an awful lot of pitches on Monday.
    He went over 100 pitches on Monday. If Girodo pitches Friday, it would be a short stint. I think we probably sit Girodo. Cohen seems to like him in tandem with Fitts. Of course, this is tournament time, so nothing is out of the question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaltyDawg View Post
    Girodo threw an awful lot of pitches on Monday.
    that's a good point. While it seems like forever since we last played, it's only 3 days rest. 100+ pitches = probably resting tomorrow. What about Gentry? He's been awfully quiet since his performance in the SECT? We still have Bracewell and Lindgren too. Or is Lindgren done for the season? Is he worth a chance out of the BP? If we can use pitchers only out of the following pool tomorrow: Pollo, Bracewell, Gentry, Lindgren, Fitts....then IF we have to play again on Saturday we would have all of our big arms: Graveman, R Mitchell, Girodo, & Holder. Of course, I'm far from an expert on this type of stuff, so I'll just sit back and listen.

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    I'd say Bracewell first out of the pen, followed by Ross if we need him. Girodo could come in for a tight situation to get an out, but I don't see him throwing to more than 2-3 batters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PMDawg View Post
    that's a good point. While it seems like forever since we last played, it's only 3 days rest. 100+ pitches = probably resting tomorrow. What about Gentry? He's been awfully quiet since his performance in the SECT? We still have Bracewell and Lindgren too. Or is Lindgren done for the season? Is he worth a chance out of the BP? If we can use pitchers only out of the following pool tomorrow: Pollo, Bracewell, Gentry, Lindgren, Fitts....then IF we have to play again on Saturday we would have all of our big arms: Graveman, R Mitchell, Girodo, & Holder. Of course, I'm far from an expert on this type of stuff, so I'll just sit back and listen.
    I'd feel more comfortable with Will Cox out of pen than Gentry (mainly because Gentry is a freshman- his time will come). I'd be skeptical of bringing Lindgren out of pen just for the fact he hasn't done it all year. I think we can win the whole thing only using Bracewell, Ross, Girodo, and Holder out of pen- sandwiched between our 3 starters (Graveman, Fitts, Pollo).

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    I had been hoping we'd go Lindy, Ross, Bracewell for an IU rematch, but obviously we can't do that since OSU has seen Ross. Pollo, Bracewell, Holder is probably the plan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaltyDawg View Post
    I know you don't believe this, but stats don't make every coaching decision. Are you a robot?
    They are in a must win situation. Their strength is in their starting pitching. If you can justify not going with Moore Id like to hear it. Information does matter. Are you a Luddite? Going with that lefty would be like going with Preston Brown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will James View Post
    They are in a must win situation. Their strength is in their starting pitching. If you can justify not going with Moore Id like to hear it. Information does matter. Are you a Luddite? Going with that lefty would be like going with Preston Brown.
    I assure you there is a reason they are going with whoever they pitch. I don't know enough about OSU to justify anything. However, I do know that their coach is very aware of their situation and that he is going to pitch the guy who he thinks gives them the best chance to win. Your stats tell you more than their coach knows though, right?

    And for the love of God don't bring up some stat from Game 3 in the '87 MLB World Series that you think somehow justifies your argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaltyDawg View Post
    I'd say Bracewell first out of the pen, followed by Ross if we need him. Girodo could come in for a tight situation to get an out, but I don't see him throwing to more than 2-3 batters.
    I agree w this. W one exception, girado can go more than 2-3 batters, if we lead and can close them out. Otherwise he's the safety net for Saturday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaltyDawg View Post
    I assure you there is a reason they are going with whoever they pitch.
    There may be a reason but it might not be a good one. There is a reason that Croom and Polk II were hired, did that make it right? "A reason" is irrelevant.

    Quote Originally Posted by SaltyDawg View Post
    I don't know enough about OSU to justify anything.
    So look at their production aka stats.

    Quote Originally Posted by SaltyDawg View Post
    However, I do know that their coach is very aware of their situation and that he is going to pitch the guy who he thinks gives them the best chance to win.
    Again, so what.

    Quote Originally Posted by SaltyDawg View Post
    Your stats tell you more than their coach knows though, right?
    I wasn't aware that coaches make the right calls in all situations in every sport.
    "Coaches know more about the sport than me so I won't ever form an opinion" - Salty

    Yes I can say with 100% certainity that if they start Jace Fry, who has faced 19 batters this season, that it is a bad call.

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