OleMissGuy says, "Ole is a term of affection in the South..Ole Miss is the same thing

[CadaverDawg]

From freedictionary.com:

good old boy also good ol' boy or good ole boy (l)n. Slang A man having qualities held to be characteristic of certain Southern white males, such as a relaxed or informal manner, strong loyalty to family and friends, and often an anti-intellectual bias and intolerant point of view.

It's interesting that some of you didn't know good ol' boy had a negative connotation.

Well, by God if free dictionary dot com says it...every person referred to as a good ol boy must be it.*

[Smitty]

From freedictionary.com:

good old boy also good ol' boy or good ole boy (l)n. Slang A man having qualities held to be characteristic of certain Southern white males, such as a relaxed or informal manner, strong loyalty to family and friends, and often an anti-intellectual bias and intolerant point of view.

It's interesting that some of you didn't know good ol' boy had a negative connotation.

How long did it take you to find one source on that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_ol'_boy
Wikipedia- only negative is correlated to a good ol boys club... Like the US Senate.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...good+ol%27+boy
Urban dictionary - 9 references NONE to do with race

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dicti...od%20old%20boy
Merriam-Webster - nothing to do with race

You people need to be culturally defeated. You are what divides this country. Nobody born in the last 50 years has any desire for Jim Crow. Nobody dislikes Obama because he's black. Racism has been eliminated for the most part in a historically SHORT amount of time. You see anti-Semitism still rearing its head in Europe and elsewhere in huge numbers. We laugh at the 10 KKKers that protest because they are so far outside of anything acceptable. Celebrate how we have overcome don't drag us through this shit any longer. The small amounts of racism today goes both ways and cancels each other out. People just need something to stir the damn pot and everyone is getting sick of it.

[MSUDawg4Life]

Well, by God if free dictionary dot com says it...every person referred to as a good ol boy must be it.*

No, that's not what I'm saying. I don't think every person that is labelled a good ol' boy is ignorant and racist. I'm just saying you have to be aware of what many people are thinking when they use the term.

Good ol' boy has had a negative connotation for a long time whether you or the people you know agree with it or not.

[CadaverDawg]

Good ol' boy has had a negative connotation for a long time whether you or the people you know agree with it or not.

I disagree. And it will take more than a free dictionary clip, likely written by someone outside of the South, to convince me otherwise. But I'm fine with agreeing to disagree.

[MSUDawg4Life]

How long did it take you to find one source on that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_ol'_boy
Wikipedia- only negative is correlated to a good ol boys club... Like the US Senate.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...good+ol%27+boy
Urban dictionary - 9 references NONE to do with race

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dicti...od%20old%20boy
Merriam-Webster - nothing to do with race

You people need to be culturally defeated. You are what divides this country. Nobody born in the last 50 years has any desire for Jim Crow. Nobody dislikes Obama because he's black. Racism has been eliminated for the most part in a historically SHORT amount of time. You see anti-Semitism still rearing its head in Europe and elsewhere in huge numbers. We laugh at the 10 KKKers that protest because they are so far outside of anything acceptable. Celebrate how we have overcome don't drag us through this shit any longer. The small amounts of racism today goes both ways and cancels each other out. People just need something to stir the damn pot and everyone is getting sick of it.

Well, the definition I showed didn't mention race either. Anti-intellectual bias. Intolerant point of view. Didn't specifically mention race though.

[Statefan]

He would probably be very pissed if he found out we strayed from ag and actually made up 1/3 of the medical school class (equal to UM) each year in the state

[BeardoMSU]

He would probably be very pissed if he found out we strayed from ag and actually made up 1/3 of the medical school class (equal to UM) each year in the state

No to mention we prob send more people to their law program than they do.

[FISHDAWG]

I just have to say it ... this thread is so full of fail ... I totally agree that Ole is affectionate and has very little to do with racism unless used WITH INTENT in that manner ... jeez guys this is an incredible stretch and quite lame to adamantly argue anything else

[bulldawg28]

GTHOM....now that was affection.

[blacklistedbully]

I just have to say it ... this thread is so full of fail ... I totally agree that Ole is affectionate and has very little to do with racism unless used WITH INTENT in that manner ... jeez guys this is an incredible stretch and quite lame to adamantly argue anything else

So, it's ok then for me to go up to any of my black friends and greet them with, "My nigga!"? Or how about, "Hey, boy!" If I mean it with real affection, does that make it OK? Sure, they might find it demeaning, and perhaps get pissed, but that's THEIR problem for not factoring in my intent, right?

Also, you can't single out the, "Ole'. It's not the "Ole" that makes it offensive to anyone. it's the "Ole Miss", which is, without dispute, a term slaves used to describe the wife of a plantation owner. When you are a school with the terrible history and track record on race relations Ole Miss has, you've really got no business dismissing out-of-hand the opinion of others, in particular minorities on this matter. It's frankly insulting to insist that there's no connection whatsoever, regardless of what it means to them today.

[PassInterference]

Saw a guy today wearing this tshirt. FWIW.

[BeardoMSU]

I disagree. And it will take more than a free dictionary clip, likely written by someone outside of the South, to convince me otherwise. But I'm fine with agreeing to disagree.

And for the record, Cadaver, I wasn't saying that "GOB" automatically denotes a racist or an intellectual rube, I know I didn't make that perfectly clear with my first post, and for that I apologize. And I'm not trying to be a "lib PC police".

I did, however, mean to note that there is a very real stereotype that exists with that phrase, and regardless of what you, me, or anyone has known personally that phrase to imply, it is often regarded as a label that is not too flattering.

[tcdog70]

I just have to say it ... this thread is so full of fail ... I totally agree that Ole is affectionate and has very little to do with racism unless used WITH INTENT in that manner ... jeez guys this is an incredible stretch and quite lame to adamantly argue anything else

Absolutely agree with You. It actually makes me sick that some of these post might actually come MSU graduates. some stupid shit in this thread.

[MSUDawg4Life]

And for the record, Cadaver, I wasn't saying that "GOB" automatically denotes a racist or an intellectual rube, I know I didn't make that perfectly clear with my first post, and for that I apologize. And I'm not trying to be a "lib PC police".

I did, however, mean to note that there is a very real stereotype that exists with that phase, and regardless of what you, me, or anyone has known personally that phrase to imply, it is often regarded as a label that is not too flattering.

Exactly. That was my point also. The stereotype exists whether they "disagree" or not.

[PassInterference]

I am completely certain that most Ole Miss fans use "Ole Miss", rebel flags, "the south will rise again", and other old south shit as affectionate expressions of school spirit.

Unfortunately, those things are a dagger in the heart of people who's family tree was persecuted or killed by such things. And for that reason, that stuff should be expelled.

To insist that those things should stay in the name of school spirit is to say school spirit is more important than respect and empathy for racial injustice that occurred here.

Penn State, different topic.

[Smitty]

Exactly. That was my point also. The stereotype exists whether they "disagree" or not.

Maybe in warped minds. It's a very small number that actually links GOB to race. Far less than the sandy ******s about the redskins.

[Smitty]

Absolutely agree with You. It actually makes me sick that some of these post might actually come MSU graduates. some stupid shit in this thread.

Agreed.

[BeardoMSU]

Maybe in warped minds. It's a very small number that actually links GOB to race. Far less than the sandy ******s about the redskins.

Warped minds? Pa-leeze, Smitty.....


And do me a favor and justify how the name "redskin" isn't a blatant racial slur. And please don't pull out the "well, I'm 1/8th native american, and it doesn't offend me" crap.

[PassInterference]

How many Indians think "Redskins" is racist? I'm asking because 1) I don't know, and 2) every single person I've heard talk about "Redskins" being racist wasn't American Indian.

[chainedup_Dawg]

How long did it take you to find one source on that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_ol'_boy
Wikipedia- only negative is correlated to a good ol boys club... Like the US Senate.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...good+ol%27+boy
Urban dictionary - 9 references NONE to do with race

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dicti...od%20old%20boy
Merriam-Webster - nothing to do with race

You people need to be culturally defeated. You are what divides this country. Nobody born in the last 50 years has any desire for Jim Crow. Nobody dislikes Obama because he's black. Racism has been eliminated for the most part in a historically SHORT amount of time. You see anti-Semitism still rearing its head in Europe and elsewhere in huge numbers. We laugh at the 10 KKKers that protest because they are so far outside of anything acceptable. Celebrate how we have overcome don't drag us through this shit any longer. The small amounts of racism today goes both ways and cancels each other out. People just need something to stir the damn pot and everyone is getting sick of it.

You people!? What do you mean, "You people"!?

Sorry, I had to.

I honestly don't care either way but it is etertaining to watch them squirm and fight with each other over it.

However, I will say, watching them wave rebel flags as they walk down the square today tells me all I need to know about where their head is at. You can say "it's heritage, not hate" all you want but we all know you're full of shit.