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Yeah... This thread needs to be locked.
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I was talking to a reb a year or two ago and he said something similar to this has already been brought in alumni meetings. There's a growing number of young alums that want the entire confederate, old south mystique to go away.
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Originally Posted by
TrapGame
I was talking to a reb a year or two ago and he said something similar to this has already been brought in alumni meetings. There's a growing number of young alums that want the entire confederate, old south mystique to go away.
That's the thing... They aren't just doing this for PR. It's about $$$$. In 30 yrs, no one would donate if they keep the Old South thing going.
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I wince when I think how some things are readily generalized while other generalizations are offensive and frowned upon. I had an ancestor killed in a prominent civil war battle as a confederate general. I do prefer to show respect to him and others killed in the war for the south. Yet I'm not racist and don't support slavery!! Oh my...how could that be?!?!?
That said I can see how a university would want to seperate itself from a moniker who's roots were laid in a time of suppression. Especially when that is how the university is known by virtually everybody, except Jackie. I also have no problem with them honoring certain aspects of their heritage. However, I will enjoy watching this unfold and all the panties that will get in a wad over this.
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Originally Posted by
Political Hack
MLK fought for equality. Confederates fought against it. That's the difference. To wave the confederate battle flag is an assault on individual freedom in my opinion. It's a sign if suppression of an entire race of people. it's literally the most ignorant display of outright racism I can even fathom in this day and age and it's an embarrassment that it's still on our state flag. OM's reluctance to let go of a heritage of hate is completely absurd to me, but to each his own. They have the constitutional right to wave that flag, honor "rebels," play Dixie, and yell the south will rise again.
Well said, Hack.
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Originally Posted by
Reason2succeed
"Complete religious fraud"? Hold up bro now you're treading on thin ice. What part of standing up for EQUAL TREATMENT is inconsistent with any religious practice? Go back to Sunday school!
Check out the events of the evening before his death. I based what I said on reliable account sympathetic to King. You're basing your reply on not much of anything.
(And just for the record, advocating for equal treatment of women is profoundly inconsistent with Islam.)
Last edited by AlmostPositive; 08-01-2014 at 05:06 PM.
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For the record the civil war was started over states rights. Lincoln was trying to expand the governance of the federal laws and infringing upon the states rights that were originally set up by the constitution. I won't get into the details of the slavery issue but what 99% of Americans know on this subject and Lincoln is completely wrong. I have multiple books on the subject.
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Originally Posted by
RougeDawg
For the record the civil war was started over states rights. Lincoln was trying to expand the governance of the federal laws and infringing upon the states rights that were originally set up by the constitution. I won't get into the details of the slavery issue but what 99% of Americans know on this subject and Lincoln is completely wrong. I have multiple books on the subject.
Whoa now!!! Take it easy and let's not let facts get in the way of propaganda and generalizing the thought process of thousands!
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Originally Posted by
RougeDawg
For the record the civil war was started over states rights. Lincoln was trying to expand the governance of the federal laws and infringing upon the states rights that were originally set up by the constitution. I won't get into the details of the slavery issue but what 99% of Americans know on this subject and Lincoln is completely wrong. I have multiple books on the subject.
Does the right to own slaves count as states rights?
You amateur-revisionist-historians are really somethin'.
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you're reading the wrong books.
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