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    Tommy Champion is now a 4 star per Paul Jones. Congrats to him!!. That makes 9 4 *

    for us now

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    Congrats Tommy !!
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    how does that work? Could there be some more players that jump in the rankings for us. We have a ton of 3 stars that are just below the 4 star threshold. Is there any chance some of them move up during the year? Just a few questions from someone who doesn't really understand the ranking system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RossDawg82 View Post
    how does that work? Could there be some more players that jump in the rankings for us. We have a ton of 3 stars that are just below the 4 star threshold. Is there any chance some of them move up during the year? Just a few questions from someone who doesn't really understand the ranking system.
    There could be players that go up in rankings and there could be players that drop in rankings. The rankings system is very fluid in that manner with the exception of the national top 20 or so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RossDawg82 View Post
    how does that work? Could there be some more players that jump in the rankings for us. We have a ton of 3 stars that are just below the 4 star threshold. Is there any chance some of them move up during the year? Just a few questions from someone who doesn't really understand the ranking system.
    You are correct. We will have some more guys be bumped to 4 *. This early, guys have not been evaluated thoroughly, especially at the smaller schools. Look for more to get the bump as the year progresses. Just don't ask me how many!

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    So do stars matter now?***

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    Deddrick Thomas will probably be bumped. Lewis and Peters are both 2 points away from a 5th star

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    Quote Originally Posted by shoeless joe View Post
    So do stars matter now?***
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    Quote Originally Posted by RossDawg82 View Post
    how does that work? Could there be some more players that jump in the rankings for us. We have a ton of 3 stars that are just below the 4 star threshold. Is there any chance some of them move up during the year? Just a few questions from someone who doesn't really understand the ranking system.
    It's very simple. If you commit to a school like Alabama, OSU, etc. you automatically get a two star bump. If you then decommit from one of those schools but you might commit back you lose one star. If you do indeed commit back to that school you get that star back. If you decommit from one of those schools and make it clear you do not intend to commit back to that school or another one of equal stature you lose three stars. When you later commit to an elite school that is not a rival of one of the schools on the list you get two stars back. If you commit to a school like us you might get one star back. Howver, of you commit to a rival of one of the schools on that list you gain no stars back and may God have mercy on your soul.

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    I wonder if the cornfeds will care now?*****


    But srsly, congrats to Tommy more than anything else. You earned, big man.

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    I think the best chance for bumps up are Smitherman, Kendall Jones, Keith Mixon, and Deddrick Thomas. You might could add Chris Stamps on this list, but I think the 4 mentioned are the most likely to get a bump up.

    Smitherman should have already had the bump up. He's got offers listed on 24/7 from FSU, Clemson, Georga, LSU, Miami, TAMU, Wisconsin, and a slew of others. He's a 4 star prospect and I think that will be reflected in the rankings in the next couple months.

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    Short answer on the do "starz" matter? question: No. They don't.

    Long answer: No, they still don't, but there is no coincidence that Bama and LSU recruit among the best in the nation and continue the level of play they are accustomed to as well. So, yes, recruiting matters. But, if you get guys that fit your system, and work hard, you will have a successful team.
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    Wow, he must have made a significant jump because I didn't think he was that close to being a 4 star? I could be remembering wrong though.

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    I don't think committing to Bama or LSU gives you a two star bump because they do beat us every year. However, what committing to Bama or LSU does do is get your player properly evaluated.

    Dedrick Thomas is too low, but the worst ranking we have is a 2 star on Scout for Johnathan Calvin. Calvin has offers from half the SEC but nobody at Scout feels it necessary pop his tape in evaluate him.

    Our players just don't get their due or a fair look for an accurate rating.

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    Champion is the real deal. I'm talking future All SEC OT type good. Everybody was all over Womack but Champion is clearly better when you watch film he just needed to add weight. Well he's gained over 20lbs since the end of his season & has another 20lbs or so to go. He's a great athlete for a kid his size. Very deserving of the ranking.

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    The fourth star equals a hard push from the Rebel coaches. Hopefully Pork Chop can help the good guys over at Callaway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    I don't think committing to Bama or LSU gives you a two star bump because they do beat us every year. However, what committing to Bama or LSU does do is get your player properly evaluated.

    Dedrick Thomas is too low, but the worst ranking we have is a 2 star on Scout for Johnathan Calvin. Calvin has offers from half the SEC but nobody at Scout feels it necessary pop his tape in evaluate him.

    Our players just don't get their due or a fair look for an accurate rating.
    Yep, and I think there is some natural correlation, because a lot of these recruiting website evaluators are amateurs at it at best, so they are naturally going to give the benefit of the doubt and higher ratings to recruits that schools like AL, LSU, GA, OH ST, TX, FSU, etc. are after the most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pollodawg View Post
    Short answer on the "starz? question: No. They don't.

    Long answer: No, they still don't, but there is no coincidence that Bama and LSU recruit among the best in the nation and continue the level of play they are accustomed to as well. So, yes, recruiting matters. But, if you get guys that fit your system, and work hard, you will have a successful team.
    Recruiting ranking only matter for the top 5-8 teams that are recruiting no brainer players that fit into any system. For example, Jamal Peters isn't very difficult to evaluate because he is a stud and fits into any system for any team. However, Keith Mixon/ Jameon Lewis are very difficult to evaluate because the offense in which they play is likely to determine their success.

    Mixon, in our offense, could be a 4 star value, but Peters is a 4/5 star value for anyone. When your recruiting class is made up mostly of "no brainers" like Peters, your probably going to win, and that's the top 5-8 teams. After that it's about fit, culture, and coaching. 8-about 30 all have similar talent.

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    Boise State is the perfect example of what stars mean in college football. They are important but so is coaching and development.

    Chris Peterson is a hell of a coach and developer and he brought Boise to the national stage without 4 and 5 star kids, but could only get so far because you still need blue chips studs to compete year in year out.

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