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Originally Posted by
Dawg61
It would of if Hitler hadn't gone full mental. Turning on the Russians, moving his troops to Stalingrad instead of just taking Moscow, keeping his troops in Russia long enough for the harsh winter to come on without being dressed for the weather, failing to let his top Generals make critical battlefield decisions while he slept costing the German army a full 12 hours on D-Day, keeping a million German troops at Calais for 48 hours convinced Patton would attack with his fake baloon army while D-Day happened, failing to attack and invade Britain before the US had even gotten involved are just a few of Hitler's baffling blunders. He slaughtered so many people including his own army with these decisions.

Originally Posted by
Political Hack
if he would've attacked England instead of Russia, that's all it would've taken. Europe would be called Germany. Scary thought...

Originally Posted by
Bully13
had radar not been invented, germany would have won the war just based on how they were dominating the atlantic with their u-boats. they were blowing up cargo ships left and right for about 2 years before we were able to start blowing up the u-boats. these were American goods and sailors heading to England. hundreds of boats and tons of supplies and war material lay at the bottom of the Atlantic. lots of American sailors too. the Brits were close to having a famine on their hand. a lot of the war success was due to their invention of radar and cracking the german's secret communication codes.
Indeed. Of course to be fair, the Patton feint was a brilliant call by Ike. After the way Patton had kicked the Afrika Korps & Rommel's ass in North Africa, then totally dismantled Sicily (with Ike & Monty trying to screw him the whole way), the Germans were scared to death of Patton. They didn't want any part of him, so I kinda understand why they fell for it. Plus, Patton is my favorite general in all of history. He was a brilliant field commander, although a bit of a meat grinder.
But the rest of it.....yeah. The world was wayyyyyy closer to being a much, much darker place than most people realize. Thankfully, Hitler went insane and decided to split his army, invade Russia, and fight a war on two fronts. Never a good idea. There's a reason no one has successfully invaded Russia. They've mastered the art of engaging enemy forces just enough to keep them advancing, while retreating and destroying anything useful to the enemy, especially crops, until the Russian winter inevitably comes. Then it's game over for the invading force.
And yes, the German U-boats wreaked havoc in the Atlantic. You just about couldn't make the crossing for a period of time. They completely shut down shipping lanes.
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