So Kendall Rogers doesn't have us anywhere near Omaha next year?

[Todd4State]

When I have time I will look at Fitts opponents batting average 1st time thru compared to 2nd.. Yeah he was relieved early but only because most of the time he would dig a severe hole for himself and needed Lindgren to bail him out.

We all know this. How many times was it mentioned that he can't get thru more than once.

A runner on first ands second on in the fourth inning is a "severe hole" now?

How many times Fitts can get through the lineup is irrelevant with Cohen. He has proven that he can start games- which is something Lindgren couldn't do. If he struggles, we'll likely bring in Laster if I had to guess based on what Cohen has said. He won't have to get through the lineup more than twice worst case scenario.

[Todd4State]

1st off I didn't say "he wouldn't start" just that its not a guarantee… Troll

Fitts averaged just 4.1 IP per start this year. For his career he is averaging 3.2 IP per start. In only 4 of his 22 career starts has he logged 6 innings, but its "crazy" to think he may get beat out by 3 more solid options…. Troll

Averaged just 4 IP in 11 SEC starts.

Hudson, Tatum, Sexton, Laster, Ross, Brown… See ya on Tuesdays Trevor

Only way Fitts isn't in our weekend rotation is if he is hurt. More than likely it's going to be Fitts, Ross, and Hudson with Laster coming in relief. The bullpen of course is up in the air at this point.

[Todd4State]

Had nothing at all to do with the best reliever in the country coming behind him**

Fitts had the shortest hook of any pitcher we've had under Cohen because we had Lindgren coming next.

Exactly. You would think that this would have been obvious to everyone.

But no- let's do some advanced statistical research that ignores several key factors while beating the hell out of only one point that factored into the entire decision.

[CadaverDawg]

A runner on first ands second on in the fourth inning is a "severe hole" now?

How many times Fitts can get through the lineup is irrelevant with Cohen. He has proven that he can start games- which is something Lindgren couldn't do. If he struggles, we'll likely bring in Laster if I had to guess based on what Cohen has said. He won't have to get through the lineup more than twice worst case scenario.

Would be great to groom Hudson and either Tatum or Sexton as weekend guys, and Laster as our 3rd starter....and then have Fitts, Ross, and Tatum/Sexton in the pen behind them. I feel like Fitts has gutted it out and provided us with a decent starting pitcher.....but he is not a typical weekend starter in the SEC. He would provide us with a good right arm in middle relief.

I know Cohen won't do that, but it would probably be a good move to consider.

I think I'm just ready to get back to having a true Ace Friday night starter. Seems like injuries and guys not having stones has kept us from having an Ace lately.

[Todd4State]

Would be great to groom Hudson and either Tatum or Sexton as weekend guys, and Laster as our 3rd starter....and then have Fitts, Ross, and Tatum/Sexton in the pen behind them. I feel like Fitts has gutted it out and provided us with a decent starting pitcher.....but he is not a typical weekend starter in the SEC. He would provide us with a good right arm in middle relief.

I know Cohen won't do that, but it would probably be a good move to consider.

He's probably more typical weekend starter than a lot of people realize. More accurately, we don't use him typically. He's not a typical SEC ace, but at worst he's a number three guy. His ERA in SEC play was well under 2. I wouldn't be surprised if sabermetrics doesn't like him because he allows some hits, isn't overpowering, and etc. But he does the job for the most part and does what is asked of him.

You have to also consider that he will likely be one of our leaders on our pitching staff, and that makes him even more likley to be in the rotation among other things.

Really what we need are Hudson and Tatum to be 5-7 IP guys.

[Pioneer Dawg]

Henderson started both games of the CWS final. Cohen had no problem benching him. Same for Rea near the end last year (and hopefully next year.. Go Ingram)

We have better options than Fitts

[CadaverDawg]

He's probably more typical weekend starter than a lot of people realize. More accurately, we don't use him typically. He's not a typical SEC ace, but at worst he's a number three guy. His ERA in SEC play was well under 2. I wouldn't be surprised if sabermetrics doesn't like him because he allows some hits, isn't overpowering, and etc. But he does the job for the most part and does what is asked of him.

You have to also consider that he will likely be one of our leaders on our pitching staff, and that makes him even more likley to be in the rotation among other things.

Really what we need are Hudson and Tatum to be 5-7 IP guys.

I agree. He would pass as a Sunday guy....I'm just referring to being a Friday night guy. I wish we could get him out of that role, and selfishly I'd love to see him in long relief because I'm ready to see these Sophomore arms get in there and get comfortable. But hopefully we will see them a lot in long relief if they don't start

[Todd4State]

Henderson started both games of the CWS final. Cohen had no problem benching him. Same for Rea near the end last year (and hopefully next year.. Go Ingram)

We have better options than Fitts

Platooning = benching?

If you want to troll, there's a place called sixpackspeak. Otherwise, let the grown ups talk about sports.

[Todd4State]

I agree. He would pass as a Sunday guy....I'm just referring to being a Friday night guy. I wish we could get him out of that role, and selfishly I'd love to see him in long relief because I'm ready to see these Sophomore arms get in there and get comfortable. But hopefully we will see them a lot in long relief if they don't start

It just depends on how Hudson and the others do. To start with, I suspect it will be Fitts on Friday, Ross on Sat., and Hudson on Sun. most likely. But, if Hudson or someone else does really well Cohen won't have a problem moving him up to the Saturday or even Friday spot I don't think.

[msstate7]

Speaking of pitchers... Are we expecting our TJ guys back next season? Did Preston have any surgery? Preston is the guy I expect to take the leap forward

[CadaverDawg]

It just depends on how Hudson and the others do. To start with, I suspect it will be Fitts on Friday, Ross on Sat., and Hudson on Sun. most likely. But, if Hudson or someone else does really well Cohen won't have a problem moving him up to the Saturday or even Friday spot I don't think.

How is Hudson doing in summer ball so far?

[CadaverDawg]

Speaking of pitchers... Are we expecting our TJ guys back next season? Did Preston have any surgery? Preston is the guy I expect to take the leap forward

I don't think Preston will ever be more than a midweek guy for us. He had a nice few weeks last season, but I'm not a believer. I have more hope that Paul Young will be a weekend guy than Brown, and I've never seen Young pitch, ha.

[msstate7]

I don't think Preston will ever be more than a midweek guy for us. He had a nice few weeks last season, but I'm not a believer. I have more hope that Paul Young will be a weekend guy than Brown, and I've never seen Young pitch, ha.

I disagree. Preston is a ground ball pitcher and infield defense should be one of biggest strengths next season assuming holland is the stud he's supposed to be at ss.

[engie]

I disagree. Preston is a ground ball pitcher and infield defense should be one of biggest strengths next season assuming holland is the stud he's supposed to be at ss.

Preston = Graveman. When he's healthy...

[Pioneer Dawg]

Platooning = benching?

If you want to troll, there's a place called sixpackspeak. Otherwise, let the grown ups talk about sports.

Don't let being wrong on bunting and covering up past statements on Garner threaten you "status" as the spoken word on all things MSU baseball. You're very good at keeping up with recruiting.

[engie]

Don't let being wrong on bunting and covering up past statements on Garner threaten you "status" as the spoken word on all things MSU baseball. You're very good at keeping up with recruiting.

Every time you resort to this, it's basically seen as an admission of defeat on the topic at hand to everyone else.

"Trolling" = Consistently asking for things you know will never happen -- and then pretending that you are a better baseball mind than our coaching staff.

[RougeDawg]

Pirtle was a senior.

That explains the low draft status. My bad. Only playing two years messed me up. I don't look at roster to know what yr guys are or there they're from. I just know who plays and who the ones are who should be playing. And when I looked up Pirtles draft stock, it doesn't say anything about him signing any contract. With only playing two yrs, I figured 700th was too low to sign and he had another year. My bad for not having enough free time to analyze and removed our roster.

[engie]

That explains the low draft status. My bad. Only playing two years messed me up. I don't look at roster to know what yr guys are or there they're from. I just know who plays and who the ones are who should be playing. And when I looked up Pirtles draft stock, it doesn't say anything about him signing any contract. With only playing two yrs, I figured 700th was too low to sign and he had another year. My bad for not having enough free time to analyze and removed our roster.

You don't have enough free time to know Pirtle is gone -- but do have enough free time to know you are a better offensive mind than anyone we have on staff at MSU? Interesting...

[Todd4State]

Don't let being wrong on bunting and covering up past statements on Garner threaten you "status" as the spoken word on all things MSU baseball. You're very good at keeping up with recruiting.

Wrong on bunting? I have it bookmarked.

http://www.billjamesonline.com/bunting_for_a_hit/

That's all I'll say on that.

And covering up for Garner? There was nothing to cover up. I said he would be a candidate for first base and he was indeed moved to first base by our staff. Once he was moved there, he failed to perform at a satisfactory level in the field and at the plate and was passed by Rooker, Ingram, and once Cole Gordon came to campus he would have been passed by him as well and then he and the staff decided to part separate ways. I can't fix comprehension issues on your part. If I was a moderator, I would certainly have fixed trolling issues on your part, but ironically I don't have enough "status". Which is fine by the way- I'm not advocating for a moderator role.

Every single one of my team outlook posts includes basically every player on the roster at the time of that post. I don't "predict" who is leaving via transfer or who will transfer in either because I don't think it's productive to do because it starts rumors that may/may not be true and it has the potential to start problems. It's also very unfair to do that to a player IMO, so I avoid doing so until an announcement is officially made. I care more about MSU baseball than I do about any "status" that I may or may not have. The rumors about Garner transferring were known by me for a while and others as well as Hann for that matter. I certainly could have chosen to put those rumors into those posts, but I chose not to because I thought it would have been extremely classless on my part. If another poster asks about a rumor or brings it up, I do address it- but I try not to bring up rumors like that on my own.

I'm glad you enjoyed the recruiting post. Read more often, post less.

[Pioneer Dawg]

Every time you resort to this, it's basically seen as an admission of defeat on the topic at hand to everyone else.

"Trolling" = Consistently asking for things you know will never happen -- and then pretending that you are a better baseball mind than our coaching staff.

Fitts not being a weekend starter is "something I KNOW will never happen"?

Uh ok