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    He will probably just resign with the Heat, but he will do it in the most LOOK AT ME way there is, starting with him saying he will opt out and beginning all the speculation talk.

    He may be doing it to take a little less money and be able to sign more people, I mean the best player in the game has to have atleast 2-4 other all stars to win a championship right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRef View Post
    All I know is that I'm not watching ESPN/Sportscenter for 2 months.
    Lol if it ain't live sports I'm never watching ESPN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quickstrike2 View Post
    He will probably just resign with the Heat, but he will do it in the most LOOK AT ME way there is, starting with him saying he will opt out and beginning all the speculation talk.

    He may be doing it to take a little less money and be able to sign more people, I mean the best player in the game has to have atleast 2-4 other all stars to win a championship right?

    Hasn't basically every championship team had multiple all stars & in most cases multiple hall of famers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew View Post
    Hasn't basically every championship team had multiple all stars & in most cases multiple hall of famers?
    Mavs had Dirk and supporting characters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew View Post
    Hasn't basically every championship team had multiple all stars & in most cases multiple hall of famers?
    yes. Lebron's one of the most modest / least selfish dudes in the NBA, IMO. He did **** up with The Decision. I don't think he thought that through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew View Post
    Hasn't basically every championship team had multiple all stars & in most cases multiple hall of famers?
    Probably so. I'll never get over the presentation on the decision. Basically saying, I can't do it here in Cleveland, so I'm going to go join Wade and Bosh so we can team up and make it easier.

    I think Jordan said it best, "I didnt want to join my friends, I wanted to beat them."

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    Quote Originally Posted by quickstrike2 View Post
    I mean the best player in the game has to have atleast 2-4 other all stars to win a championship right?


    well let's see....

    Spurs- Parker, Duncan, Ginobli
    Celtics- Garnett, Pierce, Allen
    Lakers- Kobe, Pau, Bynum
    Lakers early 2000's- Kobe, Shaq
    Bulls- Jordan, Pippen, Grant, Rodman

    let's go way back

    Showtime Lakers- Kareem, Magic, Worthy, Green
    Bad Boy Pistons- Lambier, Thomas, Dumars, Mahorn
    Celtics- Bird, Walton, Parish, McHale

    should I continue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hacker View Post
    yes. Lebron's one of the most modest / least selfish dudes in the NBA, IMO. He did **** up with The Decision. I don't think he thought that through.


    "The Decsion" was ESPN. LeBron went along cause he raised money for charity, but has acknowledged that it was a bad idea

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    He'd have a better chance at winning Championships and taking more of the credit for a single championship in Cleveland. Irving, James, and Parker would be a pretty impressive start and he'd get 99% of the credit. Irving would be a HUGE plus for James on the court. Having a PG who can make 35-40% of his 3's and dish out 6 assist per game is huge. Also, he's young has remained healthy the last year plus and can run the floor as well as anyone in the league. The Cavs would have 3 number 1 overall picks with Irving, James, and Parker. That "big 3" is far superior to the big 3 in Miami.

    Wade is great, but he can't spread the floor like Irving can. It's not even close. The top of the roster talent at Cleveland with James is WAY, WAY better than it is at Miami. Oh, and Bosh is not a super star. Bird man is more important than him to the Heat's roster.

    Irving, Deng, James, Parker and whoever else they put on the floor are young and as talented as the starting five for the Heat... assuming Ray Allen is finally old and will retire. Regardless, I think he averaged under 10 PPG this year and is damn near 40. If James is ever going back to Cleveland, it's time to do it now. New coach, 3 #1 overall picks, Deng, Thomas, etc... and the Heat could be losing James, Allen, Wade, and Bosh all this year. A lot of unknowns for the Heat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Political Hack View Post
    He'd have a better chance at winning Championships and taking more of the credit for a single championship in Cleveland. Irving, James, and Parker would be a pretty impressive start and he'd get 99% of the credit. Irving would be a HUGE plus for James on the court. Having a PG who can make 35-40% of his 3's and dish out 6 assist per game is huge. Also, he's young has remained healthy the last year plus and can run the floor as well as anyone in the league. The Cavs would have 3 number 1 overall picks with Irving, James, and Parker. That "big 3" is far superior to the big 3 in Miami.

    Wade is great, but he can't spread the floor like Irving can. It's not even close. The top of the roster talent at Cleveland with James is WAY, WAY better than it is at Miami. Oh, and Bosh is not a super star. Bird man is more important than him to the Heat's roster.

    Irving, Deng, James, Parker and whoever else they put on the floor are young and as talented as the starting five for the Heat... assuming Ray Allen is finally old and will retire. Regardless, I think he averaged under 10 PPG this year and is damn near 40. If James is ever going back to Cleveland, it's time to do it now. New coach, 3 #1 overall picks, Deng, Thomas, etc... and the Heat could be losing James, Allen, Wade, and Bosh all this year. A lot of unknowns for the Heat.
    Don't forget their overall #1 last year who apparently is a bust. I don't even know his name. Anthony ??

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    How can you say that big three is better when one hasn't even touched the floor? I realize he's talented but that's ludicrous.

    And as far as look at me, it won't be that. It'll seem like bc ESPN won't stop covering it, but it won't be his doing that makes the attention all about him

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    Also, deng looks like he's leaving Cleveland. At least I've heard that on a few radio shows

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    Quote Originally Posted by Political Hack View Post
    He'd have a better chance at winning Championships and taking more of the credit for a single championship in Cleveland. Irving, James, and Parker would be a pretty impressive start and he'd get 99% of the credit. Irving would be a HUGE plus for James on the court. Having a PG who can make 35-40% of his 3's and dish out 6 assist per game is huge. Also, he's young has remained healthy the last year plus and can run the floor as well as anyone in the league. The Cavs would have 3 number 1 overall picks with Irving, James, and Parker. That "big 3" is far superior to the big 3 in Miami.

    Wade is great, but he can't spread the floor like Irving can. It's not even close. The top of the roster talent at Cleveland with James is WAY, WAY better than it is at Miami. Oh, and Bosh is not a super star. Bird man is more important than him to the Heat's roster.

    Irving, Deng, James, Parker and whoever else they put on the floor are young and as talented as the starting five for the Heat... assuming Ray Allen is finally old and will retire. Regardless, I think he averaged under 10 PPG this year and is damn near 40. If James is ever going back to Cleveland, it's time to do it now. New coach, 3 #1 overall picks, Deng, Thomas, etc... and the Heat could be losing James, Allen, Wade, and Bosh all this year. A lot of unknowns for the Heat.

    I agree, but don't see him going back as long as Dan Gilbert is around.

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    Wade and Bosh are not top 10 players anymore. The Heat will have a tough task to keep all 3 of them for next year unless Wade and Bosh sign for 5 mill a piece and that ain't happening. Wade has a bigger ego than James.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jumbo View Post
    well let's see....

    Spurs- Parker, Duncan, Ginobli
    Celtics- Garnett, Pierce, Allen
    Lakers- Kobe, Pau, Bynum
    Lakers early 2000's- Kobe, Shaq
    Bulls- Jordan, Pippen, Grant, Rodman

    let's go way back

    Showtime Lakers- Kareem, Magic, Worthy, Green
    Bad Boy Pistons- Lambier, Thomas, Dumars, Mahorn
    Celtics- Bird, Walton, Parish, McHale

    should I continue?
    Yeah, those teams definitely had great players. Several of them you mentioned seems like more of role players (Grant and Rodman) than pure All Stars.

    My main point being, I had never really seen where, the leading scores for 3 teams, (Wade-Miami, Lebron-Cavs, and Bosh-Raptors), join up. Maybe the only other would be the Celtics with Pierce, Allen, and Garnett.

    The other looks like teams that did some damn good drafting and putting of teams together. Spurs with Parker, Duncan and Ginobli is pretty incredible team building. Lakers with Shaq and Kobe would have won all kind of championships had they stayed together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quickstrike2 View Post
    Yeah, those teams definitely had great players. Several of them you mentioned seems like more of role players (Grant and Rodman) than pure All Stars.

    My main point being, I had never really seen where, the leading scores for 3 teams, (Wade-Miami, Lebron-Cavs, and Bosh-Raptors), join up. Maybe the only other would be the Celtics with Pierce, Allen, and Garnett.

    The other looks like teams that did some damn good drafting and putting of teams together. Spurs with Parker, Duncan and Ginobli is pretty incredible team building. Lakers with Shaq and Kobe would have won all kind of championships had they stayed together.

    I would consider Rodman more than a role player considering he is arguably the best rebounder to ever play the game

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    Quote Originally Posted by DudyDawg View Post
    How can you say that big three is better when one hasn't even touched the floor? I realize he's talented but that's ludicrous.

    And as far as look at me, it won't be that. It'll seem like bc ESPN won't stop covering it, but it won't be his doing that makes the attention all about him
    Parker is a stud. About as close of a lock as you can get from the college ranks. It's like saying no one knew Chris Jones was going to be good in the SEC.

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    Stud in college doesn't mean stud in nba. I'm not saying he isn't good or won't be, just that you can't say he's better than two guys with NBA rings and multiple all stars. That's just ridiculous. He could end up there but he's not right now

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    I think the Lakers are a team to watch in this next addition of "Who Wants To Win Rings With LeBron" sweepstakes. They basically only have Kobe on the books. I can see them trying to get Love, LeBron and Melo paired with Kobe and I would think Kobe would be willing to renegotiate a more team friendly contract to get that team assembled.

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