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    Videos of JJ McGrath: We may have hit jackpot

    So many times when we hear the word "Walk-On" our mind usually dismisses this player as a small, non-physical, all heart, Rudy, type player that will likely never have an impact. However, at the kicker position, that is not always true. McGrath was a preferred walk-on at a school that probably doesn't use scholarships on kickers.

    After watching these videos, I am not saying that we have landed Sebastian Janokowski, but it is nice to see that we have a strong, physical kicker, with some leg strength transferring in. And while this guy may suck like the rest of em, if we keep getting strong legged kickers with some physical ability, our chances of landing a good one go up tremendously.

    Enjoy these videos.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnyqHV7Y0pw
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HTL...M8mTzxmTU2bpGA
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3asyjACJxw

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    Holy shit. Does anybody know for sure if this guy can play this season?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenheadDawg View Post
    Holy shit. Does anybody know for sure if this guy can play this season?
    Yes, Paul contacted him and he said he could play.

    This is Mullen's biggest move to date in correcting the weakest part of our team and yet no one is really noticing it.

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    Question his pad level!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    Yes, Paul contacted him and he said he could play.

    This is Mullen's biggest move to date in correcting the weakest part of our team and yet no one is really noticing it.
    I agree, this is absolutely huge. That guy has a cannon for a leg. The wool runneth over

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    shit wrong thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    So many times when we hear the word "Walk-On" our mind usually dismisses this player as a small, non-physical, all heart, Rudy, type player that will likely never have an impact. However, at the kicker position, that is not always true. McGrath was a preferred walk-on at a school that probably doesn't use scholarships on kickers.

    After watching these videos, I am not saying that we have landed Sebastian Janokowski, but it is nice to see that we have a strong, physical kicker, with some leg strength transferring in. And while this guy may suck like the rest of em, if we keep getting strong legged kickers with some physical ability, our chances of landing a good one go up tremendously.

    Enjoy these videos.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnyqHV7Y0pw
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HTL...M8mTzxmTU2bpGA
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3asyjACJxw
    I don't give a flying flip about leg strength, the question is can he put it between the pipes? Doesn't matter how far you kick it if you can't split the uprights and accuracy has been our problem, not distance. I haven't seen any of our FG attempts falling short.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maroonmania View Post
    I don't give a flying flip about leg strength, the question is can he put it between the pipes? Doesn't matter how far you kick it if you can't split the uprights and accuracy has been our problem, not distance. I haven't seen any of our FG attempts falling short.
    Agreed. Accuracy in games is what we need. If he can be accurate on game days, then he's just what the doctor ordered. We'll see this fall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maroonmania View Post
    I don't give a flying flip about leg strength, the question is can he put it between the pipes? Doesn't matter how far you kick it if you can't split the uprights and accuracy has been our problem, not distance. I haven't seen any of our FG attempts falling short.
    It absolutely matters how far you can kick the ball because it gives you more room for error. If you can kick a 50 yard field goal, then that means you don't have to kick with max effort on a 35 yard field goal and you don't have to square the ball up perfectly every time to make it. There is a reason that you don't see many NFL kickers with weak legs.

    Again, no one is saying that this kid is the answer because we simply don't know. But it is a positive development and him having a strong leg beats the hell out of a guy that doesn't.

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    Anybody know what year he is going to be this fall?

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    Quote Originally Posted by state66 View Post
    Anybody know what year he is going to be this fall?
    Fairly positive that he redshirted last year at Michigan and will therefore only be a redshirt freshman for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dawgoneyall View Post
    Question his pad level!
    The real question is can he be a wing slasher for Brick Ray's team?

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    this could be absolutely HUGE for us!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    It absolutely matters how far you can kick the ball because it gives you more room for error. If you can kick a 50 yard field goal, then that means you don't have to kick with max effort on a 35 yard field goal and you don't have to square the ball up perfectly every time to make it. There is a reason that you don't see many NFL kickers with weak legs.

    Again, no one is saying that this kid is the answer because we simply don't know. But it is a positive development and him having a strong leg beats the hell out of a guy that doesn't.
    Yep. Where would we have been without Hazelwood and Westerfield in the late 90s/early 2000s, both of whom could nail it from 50+? Get some guys that can kick the bloody piss outta the ball, then hire a real ST guy who can help them with accuracy.
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    Frankly, I'm not going to salivate over a kicker's practice highlight tape- that could probably even make Bell look good.

    Let's see if he can put it between the uprights on gameday first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by messageboardsuperhero View Post
    Frankly, I'm not going to salivate over a kicker's practice highlight tape- that could probably even make Bell look good.

    Let's see if he can put it between the uprights on gameday first.
    We all know that Bell looks like the second coming of Sebastian Janikowski in practice. It's been reported by plenty of people. Bell's problem is between the ears on game day. Can't handle it mentally when the lights are on.

    All we have to go on with McGrath right now is practice/highlight film. But if you aren't even the least bit excited that we're bringing in a guy who looks like he has a cannon for a leg at what we ALL said was our biggest position of need this coming season, then I have to question your sanity. It's a helluva move by Mullen & Co to bring this guy in to compete with the clowns we already have kicking. If he's bad, it's not any different than what we already have. But if he actually can handle it mentally and is good, our ceiling for this season just increased tremendously. Either way, I see this as Mullen acknowledging we have a glaring weakness in one phase of the game and making an adjustment to try to improve the weakness. Something he's seemed to damn stubborn to do in the past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg View Post
    We all know that Bell looks like the second coming of Sebastian Janikowski in practice. It's been reported by plenty of people. Bell's problem is between the ears on game day. Can't handle it mentally when the lights are on.

    All we have to go on with McGrath right now is practice/highlight film. But if you aren't even the least bit excited that we're bringing in a guy who looks like he has a cannon for a leg at what we ALL said was our biggest position of need this coming season, then I have to question your sanity. It's a helluva move by Mullen & Co to bring this guy in to compete with the clowns we already have kicking. If he's bad, it's not any different than what we already have. But if he actually can handle it mentally and is good, our ceiling for this season just increased tremendously. Either way, I see this as Mullen acknowledging we have a glaring weakness in one phase of the game and making an adjustment to try to improve the weakness. Something he's seemed to damn stubborn to do in the past.
    I am definitely pleased/happy with the addition- Mullen is at least making a good effort at shoring up a huge hole in our team.

    That being said, I can't force myself to get more excited than just "cautiously optimistic" about a guy who has yet to attempt a live field goal at the college level- especially after the awful kicking we had last year. He sure as hell can't be any worse than what we already have though.

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    Well, at the very least we have competition and options. Either one of these guys will step up or it will force one of our current guys to step up. I don't like giving kickers scholarships because to me, that almost obligates you to use the guy. If you're getting a scholarship, you better be without a doubt Morten Andersen or Ray Guy level and even the good ones- I would be very leery of giving them a scholarship.

    The other thing I think giving kickers a scholarship does is add pressure to a fairly high pressure position. If they miss a kick, it's automatically "why did Dan waste a scholarship on this guy"- and I think that magnifies the pressure because now they become a "bust" because we "wasted" a scholarship on them.

    So now we have McGrath, Reed Bigham, Sobiesk, Westin Graves, and Devon Bell all competing for the job. May the best man win.
    Last edited by Todd4State; 05-23-2014 at 01:55 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    It absolutely matters how far you can kick the ball because it gives you more room for error. If you can kick a 50 yard field goal, then that means you don't have to kick with max effort on a 35 yard field goal and you don't have to square the ball up perfectly every time to make it. There is a reason that you don't see many NFL kickers with weak legs.

    Again, no one is saying that this kid is the answer because we simply don't know. But it is a positive development and him having a strong leg beats the hell out of a guy that doesn't.
    I do agree that range matters and it definitely makes it a lot easier on an offense when they only have to get to say the 35 as opposed to the red zone- but I value accuracy over range. It just seems like Dan is the opposite and is more enamored with leg strength than anything- even if the guy struggles with accuracy in high school.

    Kickers are weird in general. I go back to when Madison Central had Stephen Gostkowski and they ended up having to bench him in high school and now he's been kicking with the Patriots for awhile and has had a nice career. It's almost a total crapshoot and personally I think the best way to go about it is to let the guys that want to come play for MSU all walk-on and tell them that whoever performs the best gets the job. Like Sobiesk and Bigham. And I'm not opposed to a guy like McGrath throwing his hat in the ring- I just think that typically we can find a guy that is a decent kicker that wants to play for us from Mississippi that can do a good job. Scott Westerfield comes to mind.

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