Any thoughts on the Michael Sam Kiss on ESPN...

[Ralph]

Sure. Im not sure how they would know I was one or not.

Christians are awful. The reason is they are nothing like their Christ. In fact, they are opposite. This thread proves that as the "libs" are acting more forgiving and loving than the thumpers.

I agree with your post in many ways here... I have difficulty going to church bc of this. I've chosen to read the Bible and do my best to follow the 10 commandments instead.

[LC Dawg]

I'm real curious to see where this goes from a football standpoint. Tim Tebow is basically toxic to the NFL now. I don't think it's because of his beliefs I think it's because of the media circus he brings. Coaches don't want to spend entire press conferences talking about 2nd or 3rd string quarterbacks. I also don't think they want to spend entire press conferences talking about whether a marginal defensive end is going to make the team. I also think that during training camp players are going to tire of killing themselves at practice only to come off the field and get questioned about Sam, just like they did with Tebow. If Sam wants to be an advocate for gay rights I think he's on the right track. If he really wants to be an NFL player I think he needs to consider how every one of his decisions will affect that prospect. I'm not saying this is fair, I just think its reality.

[Esmerelda Villalobos]

Good way to live Ralph.

[LiterallyPolice]

You've got to be ****ing kidding me with this shit. Are you not familiar with the concept of a consenting adult?

I agree with M Fillmore. I think we are on a one-way ticket to beastiality. So we are best served to not only ban STRAIGHT marriage, but all forms of human contact as well. ***

[BeardoMSU]

I agree with M Fillmore. I think we are on a one-way ticket to beastiality. So we are best served to not only ban STRAIGHT marriage, but all forms of human contact as well. ***

The Mormons have been telling us this for a long time*****

[drunkernhelldawg]

Im fine with polygamy. Why would you be against it?

I dont care how many people a man marries or how many men/women he chooses. Has nothing to do with you and doesnt effect you. As long as all parties agree, who the hell cares?

Polygomy has been around since man first walked. It is in our dna, as well as all animals.

Yall want to talk "unnatural", unnatural is marriage to one person forever. It goes against everything in our dna.

I disagree with this whole post. Marriage may not be natural for dogs, but it is perfectly natural for my wife and me, as well as countless other happy couples. Man must progress beyond his simple animal nature. Furthermore, polygamy has nothing to do with gay marriage. Marriage is between two people. When you start experimenting beyond that, you're a swinger looking for validation. I'm not ever going to agree with sanctioning polygamy or beastiality, or however the hell you spell it.

[drunkernhelldawg]

Sure. Im not sure how they would know I was one or not.

Christians are awful. The reason is they are nothing like their Christ. In fact, they are opposite. This thread proves that as the "libs" are acting more forgiving and loving than the thumpers.

You're giving liberalism a bad name. Why do you want to just indiscriminately attack people's deepest beliefs with this shit? Does it make you feel smarter than people who have emotion? I feel like you only know the intellectual content of what you are talking about without any idea of the feelings behind it. Feelings matter.

[Esmerelda Villalobos]

A christian with the screen name drunkernhelldog that curses in his post is offended. Beautiful.

[LiterallyPolice]

A christian with the screen name drunkernhelldog that curses in his post is offended. Beautiful.

I think what he is trying to say is...

He's shot through the heart
And you're to blame
You give liberalism a bad name (bad name)

[dawgs]

A christian with the screen name drunkernhelldog that curses in his post is offended. Beautiful.

Because being drunkernhell (so long as you aren't hurting or a threat to others) and cursing aren't sins that should be legislated against, but gay marriage is.

[dickiedawg]

Here's my stance on the matter:

1. Homosexuality is sinful. In my mind, that's not up for debate. It's also not relevant to any discussion about the legality of gay marriage.

2. These particular sinners should ABSOLUTELY have the same rights as all the other sinners out there (myself and every other Christian included) in the eyes of the state.

[Goat Holder]

Bc they dont think it is a sin goat.

There is negotiation on that as well. Hell, the pope just said atheist can go to heaven. Religion, like everything, evolves because it isnt fact. It will evolve until the end of time.

That's where I believe you're wrong.

[drunkernhelldawg]

A christian with the screen name drunkernhelldog that curses in his post is offended. Beautiful.

I'm not a "Christian" the way you think. I'm for gay marriage, as I've said many times. I'm not offended either. I'm peeved that you're causing people to equate liberalism with sneering down at all who don't agree with your way of looking at things. I think your way of looking at things is shallow. I am a humanist.

[dawgs]

Here's my stance on the matter:

1. Homosexuality is sinful. In my mind, that's not up for debate. It's also not relevant to any discussion about the legality of gay marriage.

2. These particular sinners should ABSOLUTELY have the same rights as all the other sinners out there (myself and every other Christian included) in the eyes of the state.

And that's a 100% perfectly fine stance to take. No one is asking Christians who view homosexuality as a sin to change that view. We're asking them to take an objective, fair view of the world, and not treat homosexuals differently from other sinners, like divorcees and those who have pre-marital sex. Those sinners aren't prevented from marriage, having children, having legal spousal rights, tax benefits, etc etc etc by the state.

[WeWonItAll(Most)]

Im fine with polygamy. Why would you be against it?

I dont care how many people a man marries or how many men/women he chooses. Has nothing to do with you and doesnt effect you. As long as all parties agree, who the hell cares?

Polygomy has been around since man first walked. It is in our dna, as well as all animals.

Yall want to talk "unnatural", unnatural is marriage to one person forever. It goes against everything in our dna.

Marriage is actually one of the few things found in every culture, and in an overwhelmingly large number of cultures, it is a bond between two people. If it's not natural for two people to stay together then why would it be a rarity in cultures across the world for there to not be marriage between two people? I also highly doubt they have found genetic evidence that says it's not natural.

[drunkernhelldawg]

I think what he is trying to say is...

He's shot through the heart
And you're to blame
You give liberalism a bad name (bad name)

Beautiful.

[BeardoMSU]

That's where I believe you're wrong.

But where is he wrong, Goat?

Culture changes, man; it's inevitable. What was viewed as 'sin' a thousand years ago, by that particular society, at that particular time, will never be reflected exactly the same today. Obvious examples from the Bible are slavery, women's rights, punishments for adultery, certain food and clothing types, etc. Hell, even a few decades ago, a number of Christian denominations viewed interracial marriage as sinful. That's the problem with a literal interpretation of a cultural/religious text.

[Political Hack]

Here's my stance on the matter:

1. Homosexuality is sinful. In my mind, that's not up for debate. It's also not relevant to any discussion about the legality of gay marriage.

2. These particular sinners should ABSOLUTELY have the same rights as all the other sinners out there (myself and every other Christian included) in the eyes of the state.

I can respect that opinion.

[drunkernhelldawg]

Marriage is actually one of the few things found in every culture, and in an overwhelmingly large number of cultures, it is a bond between two people. If it's not natural for two people to stay together then why would it be a rarity in cultures across the world for there to not be marriage between two people? I also highly doubt they have found genetic evidence that says it's not natural.

To me, it borders on idiotic to equate polygamy with gay marriage. Marriage is between two people, the essential words being "two" and "people".

[BeardoMSU]

To me, it borders on idiotic to equate polygamy with gay marriage. Marriage is between two people, the essential words being "two" and "people".

Not just 2 people, but 2 consenting adults who love each other.

Also, the fools denoting the slippery-slope fallacy that gay marriage will lead to beastiality, probably said the same thing about interracial couples. Get a grip.