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    Quote Originally Posted by EAVdog View Post
    I don't know what the deal is with him but the entire OM beat crew has said he is going to sign with Ole Miss. With a certitude that is even more so than usual. I know they think they can get everyone but his case is exceptional. They must know something.

    E.T.A. Just saw on 247 that his High School Coach is a Bear and is leading him to OM hard.
    I am not really that concerned about losing Linton...if he goes he goes. He's not a superstar or anything.

    If we lose Fletcher, Mullen should just give up on recruiting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EAVdog View Post
    E.T.A. Just saw on 247 that his High School Coach is a Bear and is leading him to OM hard.
    Does anyone else see this as an unethical practice? I know it works in our favor just as often, but either way, in my opinion there's something wrong with an extremely influential, non-familial figure in a recruit's life pushing him in a certain direction for less than unselfish reasons. I know it's only natural for the coaches (can't say I wouldn't) and there would be absolutely no way to monitor and regulate it even if someone wanted to. It's just never sat quite right with me, no matter if it works for or against us as I said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spiritual_machine2005 View Post
    Just curious, but why this weekend? I understand that pretty much everyone believes he is one that is most likely to flip. Just wondered what the significance of this weekend was. Is he visiting or something?
    Signing bonus Check didn't clear until the 1st of the month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thf24 View Post
    Does anyone else see this as an unethical practice? I know it works in our favor just as often, but either way, in my opinion there's something wrong with an extremely influential, non-familial figure in a recruit's life pushing him in a certain direction for less than unselfish reasons. I know it's only natural for the coaches (can't say I wouldn't) and there would be absolutely no way to monitor and regulate it even if someone wanted to. It's just never sat quite right with me, no matter if it works for or against us as I said.
    Personally, I think it's unethical for a teacher to influence where a student goes based on their personal preferences. A good teacher would want their students to go and succeed wherever it is best for them. That's why Tobias Singleton and Joe Price's recruitment didn't sit well with me. Singleton was a slot WR who was basically made to go to a team that ran almost exclusively out of the I-formation. Shockingly, he started out third string on the depth chart and is now somewhere that fits him better. But had he come to MSU, he may be doing what Jameon is doing- except he has NFL height and size. As it is now, Singleton will likely end up in Canada if he is lucky.

    And Price's recruitment didn't sit well with me because you don't tell a kid who has a legit SEC offer to go play for 1-11 Memphis.

    Bobby Hall is absolutely the worst offender of this in the state.

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    Coaches involvement has gotten absolutely comical within the last 10 years. Honestly, coaches should worry more about what the kid is going to do for their own school and not so much at the next level.

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    Because letting others make your decision always works out so well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    Personally, I think it's unethical for a teacher to influence where a student goes based on their personal preferences. A good teacher would want their students to go and succeed wherever it is best for them. That's why Tobias Singleton and Joe Price's recruitment didn't sit well with me. Singleton was a slot WR who was basically made to go to a team that ran almost exclusively out of the I-formation. Shockingly, he started out third string on the depth chart and is now somewhere that fits him better. But had he come to MSU, he may be doing what Jameon is doing- except he has NFL height and size. As it is now, Singleton will likely end up in Canada if he is lucky.

    And Price's recruitment didn't sit well with me because you don't tell a kid who has a legit SEC offer to go play for 1-11 Memphis.

    Bobby Hall is absolutely the worst offender of this in the state.
    I'm right there with you man. Coach Justice used to be fair and let the players choose for themselves. Bobby Hall is awful when it comes to OM leans. Should've known something was up when they put that awful turf on Madison Central's football field.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    Personally, I think it's unethical for a teacher to influence where a student goes based on their personal preferences. A good teacher would want their students to go and succeed wherever it is best for them. That's why Tobias Singleton and Joe Price's recruitment didn't sit well with me. Singleton was a slot WR who was basically made to go to a team that ran almost exclusively out of the I-formation. Shockingly, he started out third string on the depth chart and is now somewhere that fits him better. But had he come to MSU, he may be doing what Jameon is doing- except he has NFL height and size. As it is now, Singleton will likely end up in Canada if he is lucky.

    And Price's recruitment didn't sit well with me because you don't tell a kid who has a legit SEC offer to go play for 1-11 Memphis.

    Bobby Hall is absolutely the worst offender of this in the state.
    Joe Price definitely got some bad advice. I'm not saying after Tobias flipped he still would have had a Scholly but it's not like Memphis wouldn't have been available then. However the way he contacted the CL and spilled his guts before contacting our coaches he got what he deserved.

    The High School coach is part of the game. It's certainly helped us in the past. Unless the Coach is getting a fee for delivering kids then well that's between the player and the coach. If it's real blatant it can backfire on his program though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time View Post
    I am not really that concerned about losing Linton...if he goes he goes. He's not a superstar or anything.

    If we lose Fletcher, Mullen should just give up on recruiting.
    Sadly enough I think hes wearing red and blue
    ?I didn't dare think of the future; the past was still happening.? - John Grisham

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    Quote Originally Posted by defiantdog View Post
    I'm right there with you man. Coach Justice used to be fair and let the players choose for themselves. Bobby Hall is awful when it comes to OM leans. Should've known something was up when they put that awful turf on Madison Central's football field.
    The guy basically had orange and blue versions of Ole Miss uniforms made up a few years ago and made the team wear them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EAVdog View Post
    Joe Price definitely got some bad advice. I'm not saying after Tobias flipped he still would have had a Scholly but it's not like Memphis wouldn't have been available then. However the way he contacted the CL and spilled his guts before contacting our coaches he got what he deserved.

    The High School coach is part of the game. It's certainly helped us in the past. Unless the Coach is getting a fee for delivering kids then well that's between the player and the coach. If it's real blatant it can backfire on his program though.
    He definitely got what he deserved. I do think that Dan would have honored the scholarship offer because we had spots and the reason they offered was because Price ran a 4.3 40 in camp or something like that. Market and Brassell were supposed to be package deals as well- but as we know Market's scholarship was honored even without Brassell coming. Dan only does package deals if he thinks both players can reasonably contribute to the team based on what I have seen. And as long as a player stays committed, he's not going to pull the offer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam&DeansDawg View Post
    Sadly enough I think hes wearing red and blue
    Do we really have fans this stupid? Mind boggling

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    Do we really have fans this stupid? Mind boggling
    I agree.. Adams is simply enjoying the process.. He is a bulldawg. After the bears flipped rawlings last year Nelson tweeted at Fletcher and said " I can guarantee you one that wont ever be going to TSUN".

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    Quote Originally Posted by preachermatt83 View Post
    I agree.. Adams is simply enjoying the process.. He is a bulldawg. After the bears flipped rawlings last year Nelson tweeted at Fletcher and said " I can guarantee you one that wont ever be going to TSUN".
    Nelson is a good guy. And he HATES Ole Miss more than anyone.

    But his family is the kind of family that is consumed by people like Freeze. I know that Nelson is at State without a car, so if he's offered anything by anyone at OM I think he'll take it.

    Just wait for Fletcher to roll up to their campus in a Dodge Charger. That will validate just about everything.

    The best thing we can do is not assume anything, give big bro some PT, and dominate the trenches all season long. Between big bro, our track record at DL, Hughes, Collins, and Turner, I like our chances though.
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    I sure hope we are able to get fletcher on or by signing day and think we will. But the thing that scares me is Demarco Cox (fletcher cox's cousin) going over there. Granted he's not comparable to Fletcher Adams and he's playing his worse sport at OM. After that head scratcher occurred, I am confident but still questioning with Adams

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    Quote Originally Posted by defiantdog View Post
    Coaches involvement has gotten absolutely comical within the last 10 years. Honestly, coaches should worry more about what the kid is going to do for their own school and not so much at the next level.
    It goes both ways. We don't complain when HS coaches push kids our way, and we have a huge advantage in state on HS coaches. Anyone that has been around HS football coaches in MS know that we have at least 60% of them. Now some of them don't give a shit about the rivalry and all that, but I would bet you that 60% of the HS coaches are bulldogs.

    Chris Jones' coach was doing everything he could to keep Chris in the fold, and he did his part. I was perfectly fine with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg View Post
    Do we really have fans this stupid? Mind boggling
    Its clear that some on here have an agenda. We will land Fletcher, he just wants his moment in the sun. Can't blame the kid, he has every major school in the south coming after him, nothing wrong with enjoying the process.

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    He doesn't have a commendable offer from us anyway...**

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    we've got bigger fish on our saftey board so I'm not going to get riled up about this one

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    sounds to me like Nelson might be needing a car. And of course car lots always have at least two cars on them, so might as well get Fletcher one as well.

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