MSU is STILL Not Serious About Football

[Todd4State]

What a shitshow this offseason has been.

We hire Zach Arnett as DC which I don't really need to expound on too much. He's one of the most overrated DC in MSU history and literally the only reason MSU fans like the guy is because he coached under Leach, has a farm in Starkville, and wears cowboy boots. Yep folks- that's how MSU fans decide whether you're a good football coach or not. You got a farm and you wear cowboy boots. Bonus points for picking up orange cones at practice. But lose the team, completely run the program into the ground, and basically turn it over to idiot boosters and their high school coach friend? Yeah- we'll take you back as DC. You simply do not see other schools picking their coaches based on BS like that. And that's why MSU loses- because we focus on the wrong things. BS like how redneck they act and how much they let the QB run the ball shouldn't be factors at all. But with MSU fans it is.

And then you have Bumphis who couldn't coach or recruit- but we're mad that he is gone because none of that matters because he was from Tupelo. One of the rare good moves Lebby made this whole offseason.

Also, why the **** is Cliff Odom still around? He apparently hasn't gotten to the point where our guys know how to return kicks because all they ever do are fair catch everything. Except when we're kicking the ball and our snapper is ****ing that up for the umpteenth time.

But this thing with Sneh to me just absolutely takes the cake. Only MSU would be the ONLY school in the entire NCAA that is trying to follow the rules. WHY? First of all, whoever made the mistake of thinking that Sneh had any eligibility should be fired tomorrow. And yes, make it public like MSU did with the media team after the NSD debacle just so that our fans know that you are at least trying to give a shit. But second of all that shouldn't matter because we should be appealing this and getting an injunction to get him eligible. And that's THE most disappointing thing to me. We aren't even ****ing trying. We're just like "Sorry son, that's a tough break." In the meantime Ole Miss is over here and getting their Heisman contender QB back for an extra year he doesn't deserve because why? Because they put the ****ing effort into it to get him eligible. If he went to MSU he would be in the NFL combine this past week and we would be moving. Not them. And that's why they're going to kick our ass AGAIN with a guy coaching them on offense who went to MSU while we're going to be looking for our next savior coach who is hopefully redneck enough to appease our idiot boosters and maybe scratch out 7 wins and a Liberty Bowl bid. Gee, I don't know why attendance is plummeting?******

So, I say this to say this. **** you Zac Selmon. You know this shit wouldn't happen at Oklahoma. And you're just sitting there letting this happen. **** you Jeff Lebby. You suck, you're coaching staff sucks, and you're going to be an OC at Arkansas State next year so get your resume' ready bitch.

Hallelujah. Holy Shit. Hail State.

[99jc]

Dang Todd,,,,now tell us how you really feel.

[Quaoarsking]

**** you Jeff Lebby. You suck, you're coaching staff sucks, and you're going to be an OC at Arkansas State next year so get your resume' ready bitch.

Welcome to the Resistance.

[AROB44]

Just think how good we would be if Todd was the AD.

[EdwardDrayton]

Wave that flag William Wallace! LOL!!!

[StarkVegasSteve]

What a shitshow this offseason has been.

We hire Zach Arnett as DC which I don't really need to expound on too much. He's one of the most overrated DC in MSU history and literally the only reason MSU fans like the guy is because he coached under Leach, has a farm in Starkville, and wears cowboy boots. Yep folks- that's how MSU fans decide whether you're a good football coach or not. You got a farm and you wear cowboy boots. Bonus points for picking up orange cones at practice. But lose the team, completely run the program into the ground, and basically turn it over to idiot boosters and their high school coach friend? Yeah- we'll take you back as DC. You simply do not see other schools picking their coaches based on BS like that. And that's why MSU loses- because we focus on the wrong things. BS like how redneck they act and how much they let the QB run the ball shouldn't be factors at all. But with MSU fans it is.

And then you have Bumphis who couldn't coach or recruit- but we're mad that he is gone because none of that matters because he was from Tupelo. One of the rare good moves Lebby made this whole offseason.

Also, why the **** is Cliff Odom still around? He apparently hasn't gotten to the point where our guys know how to return kicks because all they ever do are fair catch everything. Except when we're kicking the ball and our snapper is ****ing that up for the umpteenth time.

But this thing with Sneh to me just absolutely takes the cake. Only MSU would be the ONLY school in the entire NCAA that is trying to follow the rules. WHY? First of all, whoever made the mistake of thinking that Sneh had any eligibility should be fired tomorrow. And yes, make it public like MSU did with the media team after the NSD debacle just so that our fans know that you are at least trying to give a shit. But second of all that shouldn't matter because we should be appealing this and getting an injunction to get him eligible. And that's THE most disappointing thing to me. We aren't even ****ing trying. We're just like "Sorry son, that's a tough break." In the meantime Ole Miss is over here and getting their Heisman contender QB back for an extra year he doesn't deserve because why? Because they put the ****ing effort into it to get him eligible. If he went to MSU he would be in the NFL combine this past week and we would be moving. Not them. And that's why they're going to kick our ass AGAIN with a guy coaching them on offense who went to MSU while we're going to be looking for our next savior coach who is hopefully redneck enough to appease our idiot boosters and maybe scratch out 7 wins and a Liberty Bowl bid. Gee, I don't know why attendance is plummeting?******

So, I say this to say this. **** you Zac Selmon. You know this shit wouldn't happen at Oklahoma. And you're just sitting there letting this happen. **** you Jeff Lebby. You suck, you're coaching staff sucks, and you're going to be an OC at Arkansas State next year so get your resume' ready bitch.

Hallelujah. Holy Shit. Hail State.

I'll try to parse this out one thought at a time.

On Arnett, as I have said before, he's back comfortable in his own skin as the DC. Our defense will DRASTICALLY improve. Hell he had a D with LANDON 17 GUIDRY starting at safety multiple games and our D was ranked 57th. His last defense was ranked 40th. Our two defenses under Coleman Hutzler were 118 and 106. So to say we're going to improve drastically on D just by changing the coordinator is a massive understatement. You're still looking at Zach through the lens of Zach the HC. That's not him and never was him. Yes he listened to the wrong people and yes he made mistakes. Those people are gone and Zach learned he's not a HC. He learned he liked being the politically incorrect DC instead of the buttoned up not comfortable in his own skin HC.

On Bumphis, it doesn't matter who is coaching that position. They are going to produce. Any of us could coach that position and the results would be the same. People have gotten over the Bumphis stuff. It was a story for 48 hours. We hired Phillip Montgomery, who's going to work with WRs and the overall offense with Lebby, and we have Dez Lindsey who will work a little more hands on with the WRs. If you could upgrade a position that is going to produce anyways, we did.

On Odom, yea I agree he should've been fired. Our ST was bad last year and cost us the Texas game.

On Sneh, our staff and admissions people were told he was good to go. We even dug around to make sure and nothing came back that worried us. We actually offered to fight this and Sneh was the one who didn't want to fight it. Not us. So to act like we're just waving the white flag and following the rules is not reality in any form. If the kid doesn't want to fight it, then there isn't much you can do.

Zac Selmon gave you, yes YOU because I know you're the baseball aficionado of the board, the greatest MSU coach of the last 40 years. I'd probably pipe down on MF'ing him to hell and back. And look, Lebby has this year and he knows he has this year. He has a once in a generation QB that he has built some really good pieces around. We need the OL to take a massive step forward, but we don't know what we have there until toe meets leather on Sept 12 in Minneapolis. Because if we know before then it will be only bad.

[Tater]

There has to be more to this story. This makes no sense.

2022 - Played in 4 games as a Freshman; Redshirt
2023 - Played in 10 games as a Redshirt Freshman
2024 - Played in 11 games as a Redshirt Sophomore
2025 - Played in 12 games as a Redshirt Junior
2026 - Set to be at MSU for Redshirt Senior year and ruled ineligible????

[StarkVegasSteve]

There has to be more to this story. This makes no sense.

2022 - Played in 4 games as a Freshman; Redshirt
2023 - Played in 10 games as a Redshirt Freshman
2024 - Played in 11 games as a Redshirt Sophomore
2025 - Played in 12 games as a Redshirt Junior
2026 - Set to be at MSU for Redshirt Senior year and ruled ineligible????

That's what I'm trying to get more clarity on. The only thing I can think is there somehow saying the RS didn't count since it was at a D2, which makes absolutely no sense but it's the only thing I can come up with.

[Tater]

That's what I'm trying to get more clarity on. The only thing I can think is there somehow saying the RS didn't count since it was at a D2, which makes absolutely no sense but it's the only thing I can come up with.

Yea let me know. I'm confused why he doesn't even want to fight it either. Did they lie about how many games he played in his freshman year? Did he just decide he wants to turn the chapter and not fight for a starting spot or put his body in harm's way?

https://247sports.com/Player/brandon...imelineEvents/

[Goldendawg]

Wow, we lost the 54th-best OL in this past portal for our most important position of need, LT from UNA, who went. what 3-8? He was also ranked about the 750th overall player on the portal. This is what we really should be tee'd off about, in my opinion. We again have an in-over-his-head assistant coach hired as an on-the-job training HC, who will be gone mid-season this year. Will we then "rinse and repeat" on the next hire?

[DEDawg]

There is no way the kid will make more money going pro then he would playing for us this season. This also seems like something we could easily fight. Something is not adding up.

[StarkVegasSteve]

There is no way the kid will make more money going pro then he would playing for us this season. This also seems like something we could easily fight. Something is not adding up.

If the kid doesn't want to fight it then you're not going to fight it. That simple. We probably would've won it had he wanted to fight it.

[msugolf]

Guys none of this matters. Lebby will not be back after this year and the people who make this call are already preparing for it

[Coach34]

Guys none of this matters. Lebby will not be back after this year and the people who make this call are already preparing for it

and we will bring on the next guy that will struggle to get to 6 wins

[DEDawg]

If the kid doesn't want to fight it then you're not going to fight it. That simple. We probably would've won it had he wanted to fight it.

Thats what I?m saying. Something does not add up.

[TrapGame]

Guys none of this matters. Lebby will not be back after this year and the people who make this call are already preparing for it

I have heard Charles Huff has made it known to Selmon that if we move on from Lebby he is very interested in being the next head coach. If Huff has a really good year at Memphis he will be in the top three candidates.

[CrosscityDawg]

In division II, you can only play 3 games and take a redshirt. He played 4.

[ArrowDawg]

What a shitshow this offseason has been.

We hire Zach Arnett as DC which I don't really need to expound on too much. He's one of the most overrated DC in MSU history and literally the only reason MSU fans like the guy is because he coached under Leach, has a farm in Starkville, and wears cowboy boots. Yep folks- that's how MSU fans decide whether you're a good football coach or not. You got a farm and you wear cowboy boots. Bonus points for picking up orange cones at practice. But lose the team, completely run the program into the ground, and basically turn it over to idiot boosters and their high school coach friend? Yeah- we'll take you back as DC. You simply do not see other schools picking their coaches based on BS like that. And that's why MSU loses- because we focus on the wrong things. BS like how redneck they act and how much they let the QB run the ball shouldn't be factors at all. But with MSU fans it is.

And then you have Bumphis who couldn't coach or recruit- but we're mad that he is gone because none of that matters because he was from Tupelo. One of the rare good moves Lebby made this whole offseason.

Also, why the **** is Cliff Odom still around? He apparently hasn't gotten to the point where our guys know how to return kicks because all they ever do are fair catch everything. Except when we're kicking the ball and our snapper is ****ing that up for the umpteenth time.

But this thing with Sneh to me just absolutely takes the cake. Only MSU would be the ONLY school in the entire NCAA that is trying to follow the rules. WHY? First of all, whoever made the mistake of thinking that Sneh had any eligibility should be fired tomorrow. And yes, make it public like MSU did with the media team after the NSD debacle just so that our fans know that you are at least trying to give a shit. But second of all that shouldn't matter because we should be appealing this and getting an injunction to get him eligible. And that's THE most disappointing thing to me. We aren't even ****ing trying. We're just like "Sorry son, that's a tough break." In the meantime Ole Miss is over here and getting their Heisman contender QB back for an extra year he doesn't deserve because why? Because they put the ****ing effort into it to get him eligible. If he went to MSU he would be in the NFL combine this past week and we would be moving. Not them. And that's why they're going to kick our ass AGAIN with a guy coaching them on offense who went to MSU while we're going to be looking for our next savior coach who is hopefully redneck enough to appease our idiot boosters and maybe scratch out 7 wins and a Liberty Bowl bid. Gee, I don't know why attendance is plummeting?******

So, I say this to say this. **** you Zac Selmon. You know this shit wouldn't happen at Oklahoma. And you're just sitting there letting this happen. **** you Jeff Lebby. You suck, you're coaching staff sucks, and you're going to be an OC at Arkansas State next year so get your resume' ready bitch.

Hallelujah. Holy Shit. Hail State.

I agree with everything, minus the emotion because I already used that up a year or so ago. Mostly, I just point and laugh at our football program now.

[Todd4State]

I'll try to parse this out one thought at a time.

On Arnett, as I have said before, he's back comfortable in his own skin as the DC. Our defense will DRASTICALLY improve. Hell he had a D with LANDON 17 GUIDRY starting at safety multiple games and our D was ranked 57th. His last defense was ranked 40th. Our two defenses under Coleman Hutzler were 118 and 106. So to say we're going to improve drastically on D just by changing the coordinator is a massive understatement. You're still looking at Zach through the lens of Zach the HC. That's not him and never was him. Yes he listened to the wrong people and yes he made mistakes. Those people are gone and Zach learned he's not a HC. He learned he liked being the politically incorrect DC instead of the buttoned up not comfortable in his own skin HC.

On Bumphis, it doesn't matter who is coaching that position. They are going to produce. Any of us could coach that position and the results would be the same. People have gotten over the Bumphis stuff. It was a story for 48 hours. We hired Phillip Montgomery, who's going to work with WRs and the overall offense with Lebby, and we have Dez Lindsey who will work a little more hands on with the WRs. If you could upgrade a position that is going to produce anyways, we did.

On Odom, yea I agree he should've been fired. Our ST was bad last year and cost us the Texas game.

On Sneh, our staff and admissions people were told he was good to go. We even dug around to make sure and nothing came back that worried us. We actually offered to fight this and Sneh was the one who didn't want to fight it. Not us. So to act like we're just waving the white flag and following the rules is not reality in any form. If the kid doesn't want to fight it, then there isn't much you can do.

Zac Selmon gave you, yes YOU because I know you're the baseball aficionado of the board, the greatest MSU coach of the last 40 years. I'd probably pipe down on MF'ing him to hell and back. And look, Lebby has this year and he knows he has this year. He has a once in a generation QB that he has built some really good pieces around. We need the OL to take a massive step forward, but we don't know what we have there until toe meets leather on Sept 12 in Minneapolis. Because if we know before then it will be only bad.

If Sneh doesn't really want to play that doesn't look any better for the staff.

I'm cool with Selmon. But the thing about baseball is the boosters that helped get BOC actually know and understand the sport and understand how to win. Because many of them have won the World Series at the MLB level. The only thing our football boosters know anything about are making furniture, construction and engineering.

They don't know how to win in football. So they try to mimic the high school programs in the area. The result is good old boys who run boring archaic schemes and make excuses for their own failings.

If tbe football booster made the baseball hire we would have Elander as our head coach because BOC is from the north and he bunts too much.

[Brobi-wan]

I have heard Charles Huff has made it known to Selmon that if we move on from Lebby he is very interested in being the next head coach. If Huff has a really good year at Memphis he will be in the top three candidates.

Oh great. Someone else to come make us losers