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Originally Posted by
msstate7
I don't think that's fair. Kugel, Harris, and Melendez gave us 8-10 ppg with Melendez pushing 5 reb a game. Nwoko gave us good mins and rebounded well. They helped us make the tourney.
You are probably right. I am letting this abysmal year affect my thoughts on the matter. At the end of the day, Jans gets next year. He earned a mulligan with making 3 straight tourneys.
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Steve you keep saying Jans has spoiled us into thinking we're a regular tournament team, but won't touch the fact that he makes players worse and we've had some of our best talent under him because of the NIL boon.
I just think we gotta start being objective and view it honestly. The SEC had 14 teams in the tourney last year. The league itself has completely changed in 20, 10, and 5 years. A "good" year for an SEC team is no longer making the tournament. Its the league wide expectation.
"Once the game starts, it's gonna be easy." - Lebron, July 10th, 2010
"No one ever said it's gonna be easy." - Lebron, June 12th, 2011
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Porter Moser, Matt McMahon and Lamont Parris are the only SEC coaches you can say Jans is better than. And I'm generous saying Moser.
Are we the 13th best SEC Men's basketball job? Shit another year of no 3 point or free throw shooting and we might be - maybe even get to be worse when those 3 get fired and we keep Jans.
"Once the game starts, it's gonna be easy." - Lebron, July 10th, 2010
"No one ever said it's gonna be easy." - Lebron, June 12th, 2011
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Originally Posted by
Tater
Steve you keep saying Jans has spoiled us into thinking we're a regular tournament team, but won't touch the fact that he makes players worse and we've had some of our best talent under him because of the NIL boon.
I just think we gotta start being objective and view it honestly. The SEC had 14 teams in the tourney last year. The league itself has completely changed in 20, 10, and 5 years. A "good" year for an SEC team is no longer making the tournament. Its the league wide expectation.
I don't disagree that some players have gotten worse when they got here. I also think some people don't realize that we got exactly what we thought we'd get out of some guys too. Kugel got better. Stats back that up. Melendez and Harris were exactly what we thought we were getting. Nwoko was what we thought we were getting. Clary and Taylor were just headcases, which we knew there was a risk of that. Eric Reed and Dashawn Davis got worse here. Ballard has been worse here. Epps has been what we thought he would be and Achor is about what we thought he would be. He's better than he was at Kansas St but he's worse than he was at Samford.
That's just the nature of the portal. You have to nail your evals and you have to nail the players you HOPE are going to get back to where they were previously or take a next step.
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Pearl takes over a monster his dad built and is close to running it off the tracks. He's better than Jans. How exactly is Mike white considered better than Jans? I believe there are some serious weed smokers here with really short term memory issues
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If we decided to fire Jans this year our choices for head coach would be Rick Ray level. C34 posted a link the other day indicating that coaches see our job as the 2nd worst job in the conference. While I am not sure I fully agree it is that bad, we are at the bottom with USCe, Ole Miss and UGA/Vandy. There is absolutely 0 chance he gets fired barring a scandal off the court. Now if he does poorly again next year there will most likely be some grumblings. I do think hiring some type of quality portal evaluator position would be a good idea. He clearly made some bad evaluations this year and he can not make that same mistake again. We will just have to wait until next year to see what he can put together and go from there.
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
Pearl takes over a monster his dad built and is close to running it off the tracks. He's better than Jans. How exactly is Mike white considered better than Jans? I believe there are some serious weed smokers here with really short term memory issues
Agree wholeheartedly on those two. I think we're going to beat Mizzou when they come to The Hump and I think Jans is better than Dennis Gates. I also don't know that Sean Miller is better than Jans. 2017 Sean Miller might be, but is 2026 Sean Miller?
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
Pearl takes over a monster his dad built and is close to running it off the tracks. He's better than Jans. How exactly is Mike white considered better than Jans? I believe there are some serious weed smokers here with really short term memory issues
Too early to rule on Pearl. White has more wins than Jans and has trended Georgia up year over year.
"Once the game starts, it's gonna be easy." - Lebron, July 10th, 2010
"No one ever said it's gonna be easy." - Lebron, June 12th, 2011
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Originally Posted by
Tater
Are we the 13th best SEC Men's basketball job? Shit another year of no 3 point or free throw shooting and we might be - maybe even get to be worse when those 3 get fired and we keep Jans.
Well, SEC coaches polled literally just said we were viewed as the 15th best job in the SEC. So 13th would be an improvement
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Another 20+ deficit....at home.
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We don’t have a home court advantage in anyway. Our only chance for wins are USC and Ole Miss and they are both on the road but 3-15 at this point would not be shocking
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Why is Jones still playing???
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Originally Posted by
parabrave
Why is Jones still playing???
It doesn't matter. This season can't end fast enough. I would love to win one more this Saturday
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
It doesn't matter. This season can't end fast enough. I would love to win one more this Saturday
I think we will win 4 coming home. Possibly 5. Ole Miss is about ready to fold up shop. Auburn is a slight breeze from folding. USCe already has. Mizzou is really bad on the road and it took Josh not making anything for 34 minutes to beat us at Mizzou. And by the time we get to UGA they will have folded.
The SEC is not very good this year outside of Florida, Arky, sometimes UK, A&M, Tennessee, Bama, and kind of Vandy.
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Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
I think we will win 4 coming home. Possibly 5. Ole Miss is about ready to fold up shop. Auburn is a slight breeze from folding. USCe already has. Mizzou is really bad on the road and it took Josh not making anything for 34 minutes to beat us at Mizzou. And by the time we get to UGA they will have folded.
The SEC is not very good this year outside of Florida, Arky, sometimes UK, A&M, Tennessee, Bama, and kind of Vandy.
Honestly, I don't think SEC is very good this year. No great teams. That top 6-7 are good at times but bad others. Florida flexing it's muscle some right now (they are current NC).
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Originally Posted by
R2Dawg
Honestly, I don't think SEC is very good this year. No great teams. That top 6-7 are good at times but bad others. Florida flexing it's muscle some right now (they are current NC).
That is because the SEC is not very good. This could be the year a team just gets hot in Nashville and steals a bid.
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SEC right now has 10 teams in per Lunardi with Georgia and Texas hanging on by a thread
Last edited by Coach34; 02-12-2026 at 12:46 PM.
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The SEC does not have many top heavy teams outside of possibly UF, but it has 11 really solid teams that could make a run in March if they get hot. Ole Miss, State, OU, USCe and LSU are all bad
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Originally Posted by
PGHBulldogBG
The SEC does not have many top heavy teams outside of possibly UF, but it has 11 really solid teams that could make a run in March if they get hot. Ole Miss, State, OU, USCe and LSU are all bad
I don't think Texas or UGA is very good either. I also don't think Mizzou is very good but they'll make the tourney
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