Jordan Seaton on campus

[DownwardDawg]

ULM
Minnesota
South Carolina
Missouri
Alabama
LSU
Oklahoma
Texas
Vanderbilt
Auburn
Tenn Tech
Ole Miss

Looks like no better than a 2-7 or at best 3-6 start. I would say Lebby probably will not make to end of next season if that start happens.

Except these days there is Zero way to predict the win loss record for any team. I tend to agree on your prediction, but we could go 9-3 because half those teams could suck!!!

[Maroon Glasses]

100%. The real shot callers.

Edited to say this is toward CourseSuper referencing the boosters. Thought I quoted him.

[TrapGame]

Damn. We'll know quickly... if we lose to Minnesota, Lebby is done

I like Lebby and support him but if we lose to Minnesota he needs to be thrown into Lake Minnetonka. That needs to be a statement game.

[DEDawg]

Replace Keenum with boosters.

That said, we're on the way back now.

Big issue after Leach death, yes, but I still put the blame on Keenum. When you're the freaking PRESIDENT of the entire university you need to have the brass balls to make the hard decisions. Imagine if we took our lump in 2023 (which ended up being a terrible season anyway) instead of putting the rebuild off an entire year.

[Quaoarsking]

ULM
Minnesota
South Carolina
Missouri
Alabama
LSU
Oklahoma
Texas
Vanderbilt
Auburn
Tenn Tech
Ole Miss

Looks like no better than a 2-7 or at best 3-6 start. I would say Lebby probably will not make to end of next season if that start happens.

We've got to start 3-1 at a minimum (and really need to be 4-0) if we want any real shot at a winning record.

Granted, you never know in the portal/NIL era, but in all likelihood games 5 through 8 are losses, while games 9 through 11 seem like opportunities to pick up a win. But you know Vanderbilt and Auburn fans are counting us as a win. (And Missouri, South Carolina, and Minnesota fans probably are too.)

Right now, I think we probably pick up an early road win to get excited, play Missouri hard but lose close, don't get totally embarrassed in October, finish 4-8 or 5-7, and have all of the same arguments all over again ("we're improved!" and "we didn't pay for good enough talent!" and "the schedule was hard!" vs. "Now he's 4-24 against p4 teams!").

[Coach34]

Damn. We'll know quickly... if we lose to Minnesota, Lebby is done

His recruiting all these young guys- while talented- they are still young tells me he is being led to believe he has at least 2 more seasons.

If you believe your job is on the line- you go with the best game ready vets you can find

[Cowbell]

His recruiting all these young guys- while talented- they are still young tells me he is being led to believe he has at least 2 more seasons.

If you believe your job is on the line- you go with the best game ready vets you can find

That's what he should be doing regardless. We are paying year to year at this point.

[SPMT]

His recruiting all these young guys- while talented- they are still young tells me he is being led to believe he has at least 2 more seasons.

If you believe your job is on the line- you go with the best game ready vets you can find

If he repeats this year for next year?..the apathy will be at an all time low for the last 30 years. Worse than Croom levels because we aren?t on probation and there is a faster solution if you can take advantage through the portal.

[Tater]

His recruiting all these young guys- while talented- they are still young tells me he is being led to believe he has at least 2 more seasons.

If you believe your job is on the line- you go with the best game ready vets you can find

Yea - and folks wonder why I'm suddenly one of the angriest on the board.

[Coach34]

If he repeats this year for next year?..the apathy will be at an all time low for the last 30 years. Worse than Croom levels because we aren?t on probation and there is a faster solution if you can take advantage through the portal.

Thats laughable. Croom hit 1960 level lows. You couldnt give away tickets in 2005

[SPMT]

Thats laughable. Croom hit 1960 level lows. You couldnt give away tickets in 2005

You cant now. You won?t be able to if this year is repeated and he is retained.

[SmokeyDawg]

You cant now. You won?t be able to if this year is repeated and he is retained.

Disagree, we were on the downswing at that point. It might be slow improvement, but we're on an upswing to where we were 3 years ago. There's hope in some young talent and flashes with a young head coach. We need to improve no doubt, but to act like we're at an all time low is crazy.
It looks like we're raising our floor with what we've brought in. We need a good LT, Edge, and OF skill player to raise our ceiling.

[NWADAWG]

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[PGHBulldogBG]

As bad as we have been the last 3 years, it is still not Croom level bad. It wasn’t even just Croom himself but the 3 years before him were awful too. 2001-2008 was just an awful stretch of Miss State football until we hired Byrne and Mullen.

[MrCoachKlein]

You cant now. You won?t be able to if this year is repeated and he is retained.

I'll take em.

[BlackSailsDawg]

His recruiting all these young guys- while talented- they are still young tells me he is being led to believe he has at least 2 more seasons.

If you believe your job is on the line- you go with the best game ready vets you can find

He's straddling the 2 theories. He knows he needs experience and is bringing some in(looking at more). But he also knows the importance of building. It's like KT at the beginning of this season. He was not going to start but we knew he would be our guy. These talented young people are starters for 2027 and rotation this year. It will be the first year at an opportunity to be really deep.

[Rawdawg]

He?s not straddling any theories, he?s improving the roster at every available scholarship regardless of eligibility. This is why we?ve had 50+ new players for consecutive years, because we?ve got to elevate the bottom of the roster while at the same time making investments into immediate difference makers. Essentially he?s signing 4 classes in 2 years because of how bad of shape the roster was.

[BlackSailsDawg]

He?s not straddling any theories, he?s improving the roster at every available scholarship regardless of eligibility. This is why we?ve had 50+ new players for consecutive years, because we?ve got to elevate the bottom of the roster while at the same time making investments into immediate difference makers. Essentially he?s signing 4 classes in 2 years because of how bad of shape the roster was.

Ok.

[Tater]

He?s not straddling any theories, he?s improving the roster at every available scholarship regardless of eligibility. This is why we?ve had 50+ new players for consecutive years, because we?ve got to elevate the bottom of the roster while at the same time making investments into immediate difference makers. Essentially he?s signing 4 classes in 2 years because of how bad of shape the roster was.

What improvement on the OL have we made definitively? We go from Cannon Boone, Albert Reese half the season, and unproven guys to.... Cannon Boone and unproven guys.

There's a reason my opinion relies on getting Seaton or another LT with good PRODUCTION.

[Really Clark?]

What improvement on the OL have we made definitively? We go from Cannon Boone, Albert Reese half the season, and unproven guys to.... Cannon Boone and unproven guys.

There's a reason my opinion relies on getting Seaton or another LT with good PRODUCTION.

Chester is not unproven as an SEC starter. McVey has played a lot of snaps in the ACC, at worst he's a very solid back up and helps depth.