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01-14-2026, 11:07 PM
#721

Originally Posted by
Tater
Good god you're insufferable all over this thread. You just spout what Rosebowl crystal balls as your only "inside" information. I know I shouldn't give in to this but jesus shut the **** up with this nonsense.
Lebby has recruited projects and unproven guys. Why? because talent still doesn't buy into his vision at the OL. They know if they're already a starter that playing here could hurt their next paycheck. It is what it is.
Sure the talent is there we could be good. The lack of production is also there where we could be complete ass. Just like Year 1 of Lebby. Just like year 2 of Lebby. If you don't see the (lack of) improvement then you're blind.
Lebby could absolutely strike it big with this group. But it's a ****ing gamble. He had a top priority this portal and has done a piss poor job at it: get quality OL who have proven production. Still time for us to land a big fish. But clock is ticking. Otherwise you go in with 5 ?s along the line.
And if we're paying Dent 150k then we're suckers and bad at evaluating OL. From all indications the dude was constantly getting his ass kicked by walkons at OU. You gotta be delusional about Loadholt's coaching skill for him to turn it around. He's gonna likely be at a G5 next season, and then an FCS the year after that if he doesn't get his shit together.
They didn?t take Autry to play him. They took because of his dad. Some of our fans don?t know how to connect dots. You wanna combat Hopkins BS? You get more friendly with Autry, Demetric, and Espy. We will never make Shay happy because we passed him up in HS because ?he couldn?t play?.
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01-15-2026, 12:10 AM
#722

Originally Posted by
BankerDog
They didn?t take Autry to play him. They took because of his dad. Some of our fans don?t know how to connect dots. You wanna combat Hopkins BS? You get more friendly with Autry, Demetric, and Espy. We will never make Shay happy because we passed him up in HS because ?he couldn?t play?.
Coulda got him for $50 and a roll of toilet paper in NIL. He was charmin soft.
And for the person who says 'how dare I talk about a state player like this'
1. it's a message board
2. he's paid - he'll cry in the dollar bills
3. use it as motivation. prove me wrong. please god prove me wrong about this OL im tired of losing i just don't trust this vision.
"Once the game starts, it's gonna be easy." - Lebron, July 10th, 2010
"No one ever said it's gonna be easy." - Lebron, June 12th, 2011
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01-15-2026, 12:14 AM
#723

Originally Posted by
BankerDog
They didn?t take Autry to play him. They took because of his dad. Some of our fans don?t know how to connect dots. You wanna combat Hopkins BS? You get more friendly with Autry, Demetric, and Espy. We will never make Shay happy because we passed him up in HS because ?he couldn?t play?.
further. just drop a bag off on espy and demetric directly then. prolly get more on field production out of it.
"Once the game starts, it's gonna be easy." - Lebron, July 10th, 2010
"No one ever said it's gonna be easy." - Lebron, June 12th, 2011
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01-15-2026, 12:42 AM
#724

Originally Posted by
BankerDog
They didn?t take Autry to play him. They took because of his dad. Some of our fans don?t know how to connect dots. You wanna combat Hopkins BS? You get more friendly with Autry, Demetric, and Espy. We will never make Shay happy because we passed him up in HS because ?he couldn?t play?.
Espy is never going to be a friend of MSU either. Especially with WR's.
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01-15-2026, 12:43 AM
#725

Originally Posted by
Tater
Coulda got him for $50 and a roll of toilet paper in NIL. He was charmin soft.
And for the person who says 'how dare I talk about a state player like this'
1. it's a message board
2. he's paid - he'll cry in the dollar bills
3. use it as motivation. prove me wrong. please god prove me wrong about this OL im tired of losing i just don't trust this vision.
I think you missed his point. Giving him a spot on our roster gives us an in with his Dad which helps us recruit other players.
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01-15-2026, 02:23 AM
#726

Originally Posted by
Todd4State
I think you missed his point. Giving him a spot on our roster gives us an in with his Dad which helps us recruit other players.
i definitely got the point. difference between paying $150k and giving him a roster spot.
i'd rather just give the dad $100k and use the $50k and roster spot on some fcs OL.
"Once the game starts, it's gonna be easy." - Lebron, July 10th, 2010
"No one ever said it's gonna be easy." - Lebron, June 12th, 2011
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01-15-2026, 08:17 AM
#727

Originally Posted by
Tater
i definitely got the point. difference between paying $150k and giving him a roster spot.
i'd rather just give the dad $100k and use the $50k and roster spot on some fcs OL.
Relationship building isn't your strong suit I can see
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01-15-2026, 08:26 AM
#728

Originally Posted by
Tater
further. just drop a bag off on espy and demetric directly then. prolly get more on field production out of it.
You obviously don?t know Shay and his hatred for State
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01-15-2026, 08:26 AM
#729

Originally Posted by
Todd4State
Espy is never going to be a friend of MSU either. Especially with WR's.
He actually is better now. He was really happy with Ayden.
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01-15-2026, 08:29 AM
#730

Originally Posted by
Tater
Coulda got him for $50 and a roll of toilet paper in NIL. He was charmin soft.
And for the person who says 'how dare I talk about a state player like this'
1. it's a message board
2. he's paid - he'll cry in the dollar bills
3. use it as motivation. prove me wrong. please god prove me wrong about this OL im tired of losing i just don't trust this vision.
How do you know we didn?t pick him up on cheap? The average third teamer in college football is making $50K or so.
But since you have all these great evaluation skills, you should ramp up your NIL donations and less the charge for us like Cody does for TT.
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01-15-2026, 08:51 AM
#731

Originally Posted by
Tater
further. just drop a bag off on espy and demetric directly then. prolly get more on field production out of it.
Probably not the worst idea. Espy has softened his stance on us since we took Ayden. Although, I know part of that softening was Kiffin and how he was not recruiting any of Espy's WRs outside of Cunningham.
I know they are working to get him back in the fold.
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01-15-2026, 08:53 AM
#732

Originally Posted by
BigDawg81
Steve with the CB for McVay
Really going out on a limb there since the kid hasn't visited anywhere else. I don't think McVay is as highly sought after as he was led to believe. I also think his number is really high and we are the only team that's willing to meet it.
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01-15-2026, 08:57 AM
#733

Originally Posted by
BlackSailsDawg
There is contact with Seaton. And we are willing to pay him.
We have won several bidding wars. We outbid Bama and others.
Thank you for giving us the exact info Steve posted. Damn near word for word actually.
No crap we've had contact with Seaton. So have about 50 other programs. But Steve didn't tell his followers that one. We're not getting Jordan Seaton unless we just say screw it we'll torpedo the rest of our budget or we get a massive NIL donation.
Like Tater said, we still are having trouble selling the OL vision to portal kids. For a guy like Seaton, who's already got multiple 4 million dollar offers on the table(again, more info Steve didn't tell you) from playoff contenders, we would have to pay 5.5-6. I mean it would have to be a massive overpayment where we torpedoed the rest of our budget.
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01-15-2026, 09:37 AM
#734

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
Probably not the worst idea. Espy has softened his stance on us since we took Ayden. Although, I know part of that softening was Kiffin and how he was not recruiting any of Espy's WRs outside of Cunningham.
I know they are working to get him back in the fold.
Kinda OT, but these guys/reps/agents pushing players to certain places or away from certain places...that seems to me like there could be a "conflict of interest " problem there. ??
I've been waiting for the first lawsuit to drop against a player rep/agent in these wild times.
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01-15-2026, 10:17 AM
#735
To kind of put a bow on the Seaton stuff, I have ZERO idea if there is any return interest. My guess, I doubt there is other than just familiarity with Loadholt. However, this may be the time you pay 100K to get a guy to visit. Is it a waste of money? In all likelihood, yes. But hey, maybe you get him on campus and make him a 5.5 type offer and you get lucky. I think it also would be a good perception builder. If it is even perceived we are in it with him then that could drum up interest elsewhere.
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01-15-2026, 10:33 AM
#736

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
To kind of put a bow on the Seaton stuff, I have ZERO idea if there is any return interest. My guess, I doubt there is other than just familiarity with Loadholt. However, this may be the time you pay 100K to get a guy to visit. Is it a waste of money? In all likelihood, yes. But hey, maybe you get him on campus and make him a 5.5 type offer and you get lucky. I think it also would be a good perception builder. If it is even perceived we are in it with him then that could drum up interest elsewhere.
This is what Ole Miss does.
And it gets them a mention with the Alabama's, LSU's, Ohio State's, and etc. even if they have 0% chance of landing the player.
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01-15-2026, 10:37 AM
#737
Member

Originally Posted by
Todd4State
This is what Ole Miss does.
And it gets them a mention with the Alabama's, LSU's, Ohio State's, and etc. even if they have 0% chance of landing the player.
my thoughts exactly. If they've mastered anything, it's drumming up publicity. Sometimes our admin seems like they're "above it all" but there are times it's worth it. This might be one of those times. It might even quiet some of the negativity from our own fans that we aren't even trying. Twitter is a cesspool right now in that regard.
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01-15-2026, 02:49 PM
#738
Looks like McVay is officially in.
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01-15-2026, 03:08 PM
#739

Originally Posted by
TrapGame
Looks like McVay is officially in.
BIG MEAT
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01-15-2026, 03:24 PM
#740
A solid get. Need a LT, EDGE, and a TE
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