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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarius View Post
    Anyone who thinks Charlie and Hadad are not tight and Hadad does not know what is in our collective is truly outing themselves as not knowing what the hell they are talking about. At all. Which makes me laugh when some of yall pretend to be fake insiders. It’s truly hilarious. If you don’t know that Hadad has a direct line there you truly don’t know sh*t and that is an understatement. I realize why this board was created and everyone here hates him, but he is on the biggest sports talk radio show in the state as the MSU representative. He knows a lot of people in that building and he talks to Charlie regularly. To not know that is outing yourself. Just remain quiet instead of letting everyone that has a brain know you’re FOS

    https://x.com/msudawg04/status/2010845691946455254?s=46
    If you mean he is told what they want him to know to spread to the public, I think many would agree with that. That is different than having intimate strategic information that they know he will run on his show. Or he is part of the system and will willingly spread false information

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    Quote Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog View Post
    Lets be happy about Miller and the kid from A&M.

    Seaton is going to Oregon, Texas or TT and make almost as much as Cam Coleman.
    Oh, I forgot, we are poor ol mittatippi tate.

    My guess, he?s going to Miami for 3+ mil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarius View Post
    Anyone who thinks Charlie and Hadad are not tight and Hadad does not know what is in our collective is truly outing themselves as not knowing what the hell they are talking about. At all. Which makes me laugh when some of yall pretend to be fake insiders. It?s truly hilarious. If you don?t know that Hadad has a direct line there you truly don?t know sh*t and that is an understatement. I realize why this board was created and everyone here hates him, but he is on the biggest sports talk radio show in the state as the MSU representative. He knows a lot of people in that building and he talks to Charlie regularly. To not know that is outing yourself. Just remain quiet instead of letting everyone that has a brain know you?re FOS

    https://x.com/msudawg04/status/2010845691946455254?s=46
    It called ethics.. Are you saying Charlie has none?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarius View Post
    Anyone who thinks Charlie and Hadad are not tight and Hadad does not know what is in our collective is truly outing themselves as not knowing what the hell they are talking about. At all. Which makes me laugh when some of yall pretend to be fake insiders. It’s truly hilarious. If you don’t know that Hadad has a direct line there you truly don’t know sh*t and that is an understatement. I realize why this board was created and everyone here hates him, but he is on the biggest sports talk radio show in the state as the MSU representative. He knows a lot of people in that building and he talks to Charlie regularly. To not know that is outing yourself. Just remain quiet instead of letting everyone that has a brain know you’re FOS

    https://x.com/msudawg04/status/2010845691946455254?s=46
    Come on now you cannot be this naive. It serves nobody in the admin or university to leak that info to reporters. Charlie tells him what he wants the public to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by confucius say View Post
    The average defense plays 5 DB.
    And neither Manning nor Lanier sucked. Wish we had them back.
    Yeah, Lanier was a ball hawk.

    That's why the 3 vs 4 man front argument is so tiresome.

    One argument I had against Arnett last time was his use of 5 DBs. It's almost always 3 safeties instead of 3 corners or a mix. LSU just put Nabers in the slot and tore up the safety he kept on him. I hope he adapts a little more this go round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrCoachKlein View Post
    Yeah, Lanier was a ball hawk.

    That's why the 3 vs 4 man front argument is so tiresome.

    One argument I had against Arnett last time was his use of 5 DBs. It's almost always 3 safeties instead of 3 corners or a mix. LSU just put Nabers in the slot and tore up the safety he kept on him. I hope he adapts a little more this go round.
    Ugh, I had almost forgotten that.

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    Nic Anderson in the portal. Any chance we go and get him or are we pretty much set and happy with the wr room as is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Young dawg View Post
    Nic Anderson in the portal. Any chance we go and get him or are we pretty much set and happy with the wr room as is?
    Would think you find way to make room for him if you can get him. Especially since Caleb is not entering the portal it seems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarius View Post
    Anyone who thinks Charlie and Hadad are not tight and Hadad does not know what is in our collective is truly outing themselves as not knowing what the hell they are talking about. At all. Which makes me laugh when some of yall pretend to be fake insiders. It?s truly hilarious. If you don?t know that Hadad has a direct line there you truly don?t know sh*t and that is an understatement. I realize why this board was created and everyone here hates him, but he is on the biggest sports talk radio show in the state as the MSU representative. He knows a lot of people in that building and he talks to Charlie regularly. To not know that is outing yourself. Just remain quiet instead of letting everyone that has a brain know you?re FOS

    https://x.com/msudawg04/status/2010845691946455254?s=46
    He definitely talks to Hadad, as well as Robbie, Steve, Paul, etc. But there's some stuff he's not going to tell him. That shouldn't come as a huge shock to anyone. Charlie has to maintain good relationships with all media members. Heck he himself is also a media member in a way. He definitely talks to all those guys though.

    Not really sure how this got started. I'm guessing Brian said something in regards to our budget.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Young dawg View Post
    Nic Anderson in the portal. Any chance we go and get him or are we pretty much set and happy with the wr room as is?
    We will go after him. I just don't know how in that pursuit we will be. We've been able to successfully moneyball that position two years in a row. Just hard to know what Anderson will be asking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    He definitely talks to Hadad, as well as Robbie, Steve, Paul, etc. But there's some stuff he's not going to tell him. That shouldn't come as a huge shock to anyone. Charlie has to maintain good relationships with all media members. Heck he himself is also a media member in a way. He definitely talks to all those guys though.

    Not really sure how this got started. I'm guessing Brian said something in regards to our budget.
    Specifically, if we don?t have 30 mil for this roster then Zac Selmon is a liar

    Edit: Hadad said this. Not me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brobi-wan View Post
    Specifically, if we don?t have 30 mil for this roster then Zac Selmon is a liar

    Edit: Hadad said this. Not me
    I would have to know context and how it was said. Was it more opinion or was he trying to say he was point blank told we had 30 million to spend and we are not spending it. If it is just an opinion then it is nothing. If he is stating a fact then up until Monday there was some credence to that.

    Look, up until literally the last 48 hours, it was fair to question our portal acquisitions outside of the CBs and Marquis Johnson. We have definitely picked it up in that time frame though.

    As far as the 30 million number, that one has been pretty widely reported that we would have around that much between rev share and NIL. I had heard as low as 27 and as high as 35 so the 30 number is in that range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    He definitely talks to Hadad, as well as Robbie, Steve, Paul, etc. But there's some stuff he's not going to tell him. That shouldn't come as a huge shock to anyone. Charlie has to maintain good relationships with all media members. Heck he himself is also a media member in a way. He definitely talks to all those guys though.

    Not really sure how this got started. I'm guessing Brian said something in regards to our budget.
    https://www.supertalk.fm/thunder-lig...in-the-portal/

    Right around 6:30 mark if you want the context to go with it. It doesn't seem nearly as dogmatic as people are making it out to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    I would have to know context and how it was said. Was it more opinion or was he trying to say he was point blank told we had 30 million to spend and we are not spending it. If it is just an opinion then it is nothing. If he is stating a fact then up until Monday there was some credence to that.

    Look, up until literally the last 48 hours, it was fair to question our portal acquisitions outside of the CBs and Marquis Johnson. We have definitely picked it up in that time frame though.

    As far as the 30 million number, that one has been pretty widely reported that we would have around that much between rev share and NIL. I had heard as low as 27 and as high as 35 so the 30 number is in that range.
    But even if it is 30 million - lets look at what really is. And this is just NIL, not the base pay from school, which everyone will get. Figure everyone projected in the 2 deep is getting paid NIL. That's 44 guys. Easily another 25 beyond that in freshmen prospects and transfers. Conservatively you are at 69 guys. Conservatively, you have 5-6 making $1 mil by themselves - Maybe a couple at $2m or more. So, you are "splitting" maybe 24 million between 60 or players. That just $400k each.
    Now I have no idea what the real numbers are. But it shows how quickly the $ ads up and how possibly far behind we were/are. When you have Miami offering Ty Simpson $6.5 m to play another year - you see it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg View Post
    But even if it is 30 million - lets look at what really is. And this is just NIL, not the base pay from school, which everyone will get. Figure everyone projected in the 2 deep is getting paid NIL. That's 44 guys. Easily another 25 beyond that in freshmen prospects and transfers. Conservatively you are at 69 guys. Conservatively, you have 5-6 making $1 mil by themselves - Maybe a couple at $2m or more. So, you are "splitting" maybe 24 million between 60 or players. That just $400k each.
    Now I have no idea what the real numbers are. But it shows how quickly the $ ads up and how possibly far behind we were/are. When you have Miami offering Ty Simpson $6.5 m to play another year - you see it.
    Poor guys only making $400K. Bless their hearts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    I would have to know context and how it was said. Was it more opinion or was he trying to say he was point blank told we had 30 million to spend and we are not spending it. If it is just an opinion then it is nothing. If he is stating a fact then up until Monday there was some credence to that.

    Look, up until literally the last 48 hours, it was fair to question our portal acquisitions outside of the CBs and Marquis Johnson. We have definitely picked it up in that time frame though.

    As far as the 30 million number, that one has been pretty widely reported that we would have around that much between rev share and NIL. I had heard as low as 27 and as high as 35 so the 30 number is in that range.
    The context is using any of the fan media as a absolute source on anything along these lines, there in no way on gods green earth that anyone with real knowledge would pass on exact information. To many people run to the propaganda peddled by our fan media, they have to understand that these guys are selling something. It all, as much as we all want our teams to be successful, is just another opinion not an absolute source of bang on solid information to always be relied on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg View Post
    But even if it is 30 million - lets look at what really is. And this is just NIL, not the base pay from school, which everyone will get. Figure everyone projected in the 2 deep is getting paid NIL. That's 44 guys. Easily another 25 beyond that in freshmen prospects and transfers. Conservatively you are at 69 guys. Conservatively, you have 5-6 making $1 mil by themselves - Maybe a couple at $2m or more. So, you are "splitting" maybe 24 million between 60 or players. That just $400k each.
    Now I have no idea what the real numbers are. But it shows how quickly the $ ads up and how possibly far behind we were/are. When you have Miami offering Ty Simpson $6.5 m to play another year - you see it.
    Every player on the team will be getting NIL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord McBuckethead View Post
    Every player on the team will be getting NIL.
    everyone out of the 105? no. Out of the 85? getting closer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leroy Jenkins View Post
    Oh, I forgot, we are poor ol mittatippi tate.

    My guess, he?s going to Miami for 3+ mil.
    Nobody is saying that.

    The kid is probably the most coveted OL in the portal. He will command close to 3 million. How much do you think we have committed to paying

    Miller
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    Matthews

    That is 5 OL - Do you think we got them free? We have made a conscious decision to sign high upside, yet not proven OL. Chester is the only proven OL we have signed. I'm guessing we will still go after 1-2 more, but if you think we can afford to pay any OL 3 million, after committing to paying the 5 young OL money, I'm not sure what to tell you.

    Look - either this strategy of signing young high upside OL will work, or Lebby is looking for a job next year. It is not the route I would have taken, but I'm certainly hoping it works out.

    It does appear to be the same strategy on the DL. Young high upside, yet unproven at the P4 level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog View Post
    Nobody is saying that.

    The kid is probably the most coveted OL in the portal. He will command close to 3 million. How much do you think we have committed to paying

    Miller
    Nash
    Prudhomme
    Dent
    Matthews

    That is 5 OL - Do you think we got them free? We have made a conscious decision to sign high upside, yet not proven OL. Chester is the only proven OL we have signed. I'm guessing we will still go after 1-2 more, but if you think we can afford to pay any OL 3 million, after committing to paying the 5 young OL money, I'm not sure what to tell you.

    Look - either this strategy of signing young high upside OL will work, or Lebby is looking for a job next year. It is not the route I would have taken, but I'm certainly hoping it works out.

    It does appear to be the same strategy on the DL. Young high upside, yet unproven at the P4 level.
    I have a decent guage on what we're paying these guys and so I'll try to ballpark it

    Miller: 450-600K, this one very likely is higher. This was just the first numbers I heard.
    Nash: 350-500K
    Prudhomme: 350-500K
    Dent: 150-300K
    Matthews: 250K-500K
    Chester:450-600K

    That's not including what you've got in retention to guys like James, Owens, Steen, potentially Boone, etc.

    Now could we get into a bidding war for Seaton if there was genuine interest? Yes. There's not a doubt in my mind we could. But we're not going to be bidding against a void. He has to want to come here and he has given no indication that is the case. People are just grasping at straws that because Loadholt was his OL coach, he'd want to be here.

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