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01-12-2026, 10:03 PM
#601

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
I put LESS THAN ZERO stock into that bowl game. I didn't even want us to play it. There was nothing to gain and everything to lose, and we almost saw the everything portion come true.
I cant ignore how poorly coached and how poorly prepared we were. Also, we look to be the same or worse at every position on offense as of now. Maybe that changes the next 2 weeks.
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01-12-2026, 10:15 PM
#602

Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
I cant ignore how poorly coached and how poorly prepared we were. Also, we look to be the same or worse at every position on offense as of now. Maybe that changes the next 2 weeks.
QB-better
RB-same
WR-same. Maybe slightly better. Johnson is Thompson 2.0 and we are slightly deeper.
TE: Worse. We need to fill this.
OL: Same. We actually cannot be worse.
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01-12-2026, 10:40 PM
#603

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
QB-better
RB-same
WR-same. Maybe slightly better. Johnson is Thompson 2.0 and we are slightly deeper.
TE: Worse. We need to fill this.
OL: Same. We actually cannot be worse.
RB is worse without Booth. We havent replaced his burst.
WR is worse. I like Johnson but Thompson had game breaking speed. Still havent upgraded the other side.
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01-12-2026, 10:48 PM
#604

Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
RB is worse without Booth. We havent replaced his burst.
WR is worse. I like Johnson but Thompson had game breaking speed. Still havent upgraded the other side.
Defense should be leaps and bounds better.
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01-12-2026, 10:51 PM
#605
I'm not asking this to be a debby downer or anything of that nature. Genuinely curious. Why have we went and got so many safeties? Maybe I'm wrong but haven't we signed 4 or 5? And I'm sure we payed every one of them. I could understand signing 3 + Womack. Seems like we have a bunch of money tied up in that position.
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01-12-2026, 10:58 PM
#606

Originally Posted by
Maroon Glasses
I'm not asking this to be a debby downer or anything of that nature. Genuinely curious. Why have we went and got so many safeties? Maybe I'm wrong but haven't we signed 4 or 5? And I'm sure we payed every one of them. I could understand signing 3 + Womack. Seems like we have a bunch of money tied up in that position.
I think we use a lot of 3 safety looks under Arnett (I could be wrong) Smith moved to a hybrid
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01-12-2026, 11:10 PM
#607

Originally Posted by
Brobi-wan
I think we use a lot of 3 safety looks under Arnett (I could be wrong) Smith moved to a hybrid
If that's the case then it makes more sense. I was assuming we was gonna go with the 2 safety look. But if Arnett uses 3 then it's more understandable.
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01-13-2026, 12:26 AM
#608

Originally Posted by
DEDawg
Agree plus another edge. Can we get them? I?m not confident but hopefully this week proves me wrong
Not sure if he is an EDGE in this scheme or not but I think Zakari Tillman could have a breakout year next year.
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01-13-2026, 12:31 AM
#609

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
I think that's the biggest thing. Kamario has to show he can win games and WE have to show we can win games. The bowl game didn't really do anything to inspire a bunch of confidence, I don't think it killed much either though. Kamario is exactly where a lot of us thought he was. Insanely athletic, a cannon for an arm, struggles with consistency, and sometimes doesn't make the right read.
I'm excited to see his progression with an offseason as QB1. If he progresses like I expect him to, he will, by himself, lead us to 2-3 extra wins next year.
One thing I really like about KT is he doesn't turn the ball over a lot. He had one INT and that wasn't his fault- it was a tipped pass.
I just expect him to go through progressions adequately. If he can do that and continue to take care of the ball, we'll be pretty good. And honestly that drive in the bowl where he hit SanFrisco for a TD pass- that was the only drive where our o-line actually gave him time to do anything and I thought he looked really good when he actually had time. Maybe Matt Wyatt will give us a deep dive.
That said, KT won't really hit his peak until 2027 and that's when I think he and MSU are going to be really scary.
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01-13-2026, 12:34 AM
#610

Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
I cant ignore how poorly coached and how poorly prepared we were. Also, we look to be the same or worse at every position on offense as of now. Maybe that changes the next 2 weeks.
What did you really expect to change during bowl prep without significant player acquisition and no DC, and we were also without Isaac and I think Zakari was out?
I expected a shootout and that's what we got. We gave up a ST TD that hurt us and we got ourselves back into the game only for our defense to wilt on a shovel pass that should have gone for three yards max.
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01-13-2026, 12:38 AM
#611

Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
RB is worse without Booth. We havent replaced his burst.
WR is worse. I like Johnson but Thompson had game breaking speed. Still havent upgraded the other side.
Eh. I think we're going to hope that Gayten gets better which he probably will and/or that one of Hill/Crosby can come in and contribute in a reserve role right away which they might be able to do.
I think we are being a little choosy because of Fluff but also because there are a couple of really good looking RB's in Mississippi for 2027 and 2028. Stacking the room too much might not be the best idea.
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01-13-2026, 12:40 AM
#612

Originally Posted by
Maroon Glasses
I'm not asking this to be a debby downer or anything of that nature. Genuinely curious. Why have we went and got so many safeties? Maybe I'm wrong but haven't we signed 4 or 5? And I'm sure we payed every one of them. I could understand signing 3 + Womack. Seems like we have a bunch of money tied up in that position.
We lost a lot with Manning, Lanier, and Washington. Plus, as others have said the defensive scheme is very different. I love Womack and I think he plays and maybe even starts but it's good to have some guys that have some experience just in case he takes longer to adjust than we expect. And we need depth there anyway.
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01-13-2026, 01:06 AM
#613
We need to be 6 safeties deep. And all 6 need to be interchangeable on where the line up so the opposing QB has to take longer to figure out who is the help guy. And 4 of the 6 need to be head hunters. Not in the targeting sense but not afraid to come up and smoke a RB. Remember how bad Skatebo punished our safeties! This guys were weak! Isaac was the only one who didn?t mind contact and he got hurt a lot this past year. Depth!!!
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01-13-2026, 01:41 AM
#614

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
QB-better
RB-same
WR-same. Maybe slightly better. Johnson is Thompson 2.0 and we are slightly deeper.
TE: Worse. We need to fill this.
OL: Same. We actually cannot be worse.
We picked up some TEs
OL is improved.
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01-13-2026, 06:58 AM
#615
I will apologize to Phil Loadholt for everything I said about him if he can bring in Colorado OT Jordan Seaton. Seaton is the 4th ranked player in the portal and the number 1 OT in the portal. I will apologize for calling him Bozo the Clown
Last edited by BigDawg81; 01-13-2026 at 07:03 AM.
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01-13-2026, 07:47 AM
#616

Originally Posted by
BigDawg81
I will apologize to Phil Loadholt for everything I said about him if he can bring in Colorado OT Jordan Seaton. Seaton is the 4th ranked player in the portal and the number 1 OT in the portal. I will apologize for calling him Bozo the Clown
His asking price is 2.5 million
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01-13-2026, 07:55 AM
#617
lets see how serious this outfit is.
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01-13-2026, 07:58 AM
#618
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01-13-2026, 08:10 AM
#619

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
QB-better
RB-same
WR-same. Maybe slightly better. Johnson is Thompson 2.0 and we are slightly deeper.
TE: Worse. We need to fill this.
OL: Same. We actually cannot be worse.
Saying we are better at QB is pure speculation that KT is going to grow by leaps and bounds during the off season. Did you watch the bowl game? I saw zero improvement. I was so excited about watching that game. I believed the hype. I thought he was going to show out. What it showed was that Lebby did the right thing playing Shapen all year.
We have to hope that KT turns it on this off season or the new guy takes over the position.
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01-13-2026, 08:13 AM
#620

Originally Posted by
Todd4State
Eh. I think we're going to hope that Gayten gets better which he probably will and/or that one of Hill/Crosby can come in and contribute in a reserve role right away which they might be able to do.
I think we are being a little choosy because of Fluff but also because there are a couple of really good looking RB's in Mississippi for 2027 and 2028. Stacking the room too much might not be the best idea.
What are y'all's thoughts on Amaree Williams? He looks like a good pash rusher to me.
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