If we're so hopelessly poor that it doesn't matter who our coach is...

[Todd4State]

Every argument in favor of Lebby takes the following form:

• Hey, fuсk you! You don't know anything!
• We have so little money that even schools like Wake Forest and Toledo would blow us out, and no coach will ever be able to change that, so why bother changing coaches?
• Unless you are personally donating millions of dollars to buy him out all by yourself, shut the hell up!

It's nothing like Moorhead or Arnett or Lemonis. All of those coaches had their supporters (more supporters than Lebby does now, that's for sure), but it stayed civil, and the fans of those schools could at least point to something that they had accomplished as a coach as a reason to think they could get better. Lebby supporters can't point to anything, so they just go for anger and vitriol, but instead of directing that anger and vitriol at the coach who is 2-17 against P5 competition despite having had rosters that could have won 6 or 7 of those games, it's directed at the people who are tired of the losing and underachieving.

The thing is you don't offer anything constructive to fix it.

The people you say that are "defending" Lebby are all basically telling you how to fix it. But somehow "you just want to win and this is unacceptable" but when someone tells you to donate money to the program you get all bitchy. That's why people tell you "**** you". You really don't care. You just don't want Lebby here because of what his father in law did. That's more important to you than winning. So spare me the bullshit.

If you want someone other than Lebby that's fine. We can fire him today and I wouldn't give a shit. Hell if we brought in Dan and least we can get that out of our fans system and then Arnett would be gone. So if you want him gone go find some boosters like those dumbasses in Madison that got us in this spot to start with. Go ahead. Make it happen. I just told you how to get rid of Lebby. What a loyalist I am.**

But don't tell me that you only want to win when you aren't really willing to do what it takes to do it which is give money and you're trying to do everything you can do to hurt MSU football but you are too ignorant to realize it because you're blinded by your hate by Lebby.

[Quaoarsking]

"He had to run the hurry-up so that he could run out the clock!" Do you even hear yourself?

It's very obvious that you basically agree with all of us about Lebby, but just can't bring yourself to admit that you've been wrong for like 10 weeks ... out of the, what 1,000 weeks you've been part of the message board community? It's no big deal. No one's going to taunt you for changing your mind. It happens to all of us.

[mparkerfd20]

I hate him more

But not the most. Many of us hate him more than you.

[Quaoarsking]

The thing is you don't offer anything constructive to fix it.

...
What??

I have said repeatedly that we need to change head coaches to someone who our boosters will be more interested in funding. Nobody thinks that paying into Mississippi State football is a good investment right now. Yes, some will do it anyway because they're diehard fans, but we saw a few months ago in baseball how a coaching change can suddenly open people's pocketbooks.

You just don't want Lebby here because of what his father in law did. That's more important to you than winning. So spare me the bullshit.

I've always said that Lebby is not responsible for his creep father-in-law's actions. I've never held him responsible for that. I think Lebby's own actions during that scandal are pretty sketchy, but in a world where Chris Beard can go from beating the hell out of his wife to head coach of Ole Miss in 3 months, it's just something that fans everywhere have to make themselves OK with it.

If you want someone other than Lebby that's fine. We can fire him today and I wouldn't give a shit.

Apparently not...

But don't tell me that you only want to win when you aren't really willing to do what it takes to do it which is give money

I have donated what I can comfortably afford. I wish I were a millionaire or billionaire, but sadly I'm not. I don't know what more I can personally do, other than make it clear that the vast majority of the fanbase wants him gone.

[msstate7]

Not sure why anybody would hate him. That's wild.

If he goes 7-5 next year, he should get support, not hate. That would mean he's improved the win total every year and has made changes to the staff that are working.

Hate him being our coach. Not hate him personally. I don't know him

[Dawgology]

That's a false narrative.
Hire the right guy and everything will fall into place (that doesn't mean make a playoff, it just means be solid to good).
Lebby gets one more year to see if he is the guy.

One more year to see if he?s the guy???? Ole buddy has one one?ONE?SEC game in two years and that is in an SEC that is clearly down. Let me answer this for you with certainty. He is NOT the guy.

[Todd4State]

...
What??

I have said repeatedly that we need to change head coaches to someone who our boosters will be more interested in funding. Nobody thinks that paying into Mississippi State football is a good investment right now. Yes, some will do it anyway because they're diehard fans, but we saw a few months ago in baseball how a coaching change can suddenly open people's pocketbooks.


I've always said that Lebby is not responsible for his creep father-in-law's actions. I've never held him responsible for that. I think Lebby's own actions during that scandal are pretty sketchy, but in a world where Chris Beard can go from beating the hell out of his wife to head coach of Ole Miss in 3 months, it's just something that fans everywhere have to make themselves OK with it.


Apparently not...


I have donated what I can comfortably afford. I wish I were a millionaire or billionaire, but sadly I'm not. I don't know what more I can personally do, other than make it clear that the vast majority of the fanbase wants him gone.

With baseball the money and commitment came BEFORE we hired O'Connor.

And no it really doesn't matter to me if Lebby is our coach or not. What does matter is when idiots like you want to hurt our program though.

[Todd4State]

"He had to run the hurry-up so that he could run out the clock!" Do you even hear yourself?

It's very obvious that you basically agree with all of us about Lebby, but just can't bring yourself to admit that you've been wrong for like 10 weeks ... out of the, what 1,000 weeks you've been part of the message board community? It's no big deal. No one's going to taunt you for changing your mind. It happens to all of us.

Running the ball didn't work. Like I said. Lebby was in a no win situation and that was because of our players. No different than our fans complaining about him "leaving in KT" last night.

[Quaoarsking]

What does matter is when idiots like you want to hurt our program though.

I've spent an unhealthy amount of the last 20 years talking about Mississippi State football and other sports across multiple message boards. The notion that I "want to hurt the program" is absolutely ludicrous, and I think even you will admit that.

I have never posted anything that would be detrimental to Mississippi State, and have held back on posting my opinions many times.

[BlackSailsDawg]

Then why does everyone who says this so adamantly and angrily defend him?

After all, if it doesn't matter either way, why not make the fanbase happy?

You do not speak nor are you the fan base. You dont blame whats not at fault.

[Quaoarsking]

It's also fascinating how most Lebby fans were huge Leach Haters who wanted to fire him after 2021 and said that if he lost the Egg Bowl in 2022, he should be fired even if he was 11-1 because winning the Egg Bowl is that important ... but not a peep from any of those people after Lebby is 0-2 in Egg Bowls.

[Quaoarsking]

You do not speak nor are you the fan base. You dont blame whats not at fault.

On the issue of whether Lebby should be fired or not, I very much speak for a huge majority of the fanbase.

[BlackSailsDawg]

Not sure why anybody would hate him. That's wild.

If he goes 7-5 next year, he should get support, not hate. That would mean he's improved the win total every year and has made changes to the staff that are working.

They dont hate him. Its just the few that speak louder and often. They go to all the message boards to promote their misery.

[Coach34]

Sure but that doesn't mean don't give in the meantime.

I don't think we get O'Connor if we completely stopped supporting baseball.

We got BOC specifically because we vowed to fund the program at an even higher rate

Until we spend like an SEC team in football- we wont see the results we desire.

[Coach34]

It's also fascinating how most Lebby fans were huge Leach Haters who wanted to fire him after 2021 and said that if he lost the Egg Bowl in 2022, he should be fired even if he was 11-1 because winning the Egg Bowl is that important ... but not a peep from any of those people after Lebby is 0-2 in Egg Bowls.

I never saw anybody saying Leach should be fired.

[Quaoarsking]

I never saw anybody saying Leach should be fired.

Bull. Ѕhit.

[BlackSailsDawg]

It's also fascinating how most Lebby fans were huge Leach Haters who wanted to fire him after 2021 and said that if he lost the Egg Bowl in 2022, he should be fired even if he was 11-1 because winning the Egg Bowl is that important ... but not a peep from any of those people after Lebby is 0-2 in Egg Bowls.

I liked Leach and his system. That does not change facts.

What you are advocating for will put us on the path of Auburn.

Lebby has not had a fireable offense. We won more and competed most of the season. With a better defense, we will win more.

So buckle up butter cup, Lebby isnt going anywhere.

[BlackSailsDawg]

On the issue of whether Lebby should be fired or not, I very much speak for a huge majority of the fanbase.

No you dont. The ego on you to think you do speak for us all is laughable.

[Quaoarsking]

No you dont. The ego on you to think you do speak for us all is laughable.

You're living under a rock if you think the fanbase supports Lebby. Open your eyes. Even on this message board, it's overwhelmingly anti-Lebby, and it's worse everywhere else. Go check social media comments. Go talk to people in real life. Hardly anyone thinks Lebby is doing well.

[Todd4State]

I've spent an unhealthy amount of the last 20 years talking about Mississippi State football and other sports across multiple message boards. The notion that I "want to hurt the program" is absolutely ludicrous, and I think even you will admit that.

I have never posted anything that would be detrimental to Mississippi State, and have held back on posting my opinions many times.

I don't think you are intentionally doing it. I think you just don't know what the hell you are talking about.

And then to try to call out the people that know how to fix the program- yeah that's not going to fly.