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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    He's an idiot
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    So what you are telling me is- Indiana spent 2MM to buy a QB to make them better. In addition to other spending.

    Trap set and delivered. Indy spent money to win. They spent more money than us. Alot more. It takes money you morons. That is what I am trying to teach you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    LOL

    So what you are telling me is- Indiana spent 2MM to buy a QB to make them better. In addition to other spending.

    Trap set and delivered. Indy spent money to win. They spent more money than us. Alot more. It takes money you morons. That is what I am trying to teach you
    You said it was the same qb last season. It wasn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    LOL

    So what you are telling me is- Indiana spent 2MM to buy a QB to make them better. In addition to other spending.

    Trap set and delivered. Indy spent money to win. They spent more money than us. Alot more. It takes money you morons. That is what I am trying to teach you
    Nobody here doesn't think it doesn't take money. You need to learn how to dialogue before you worry about teaching anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEDawg View Post
    This is insane. No it is not only coaching. The level of head in the sand around here is crazy

    Explain what it is since your understand. They got a Qb transfer that's the brother to the backup. Mendoza was 12-14 as a Cal starter. Dude wasn't a winner until he came to Indiana. Indiana had 13 transfers from James Madison, that cost $30 million, right? Mendoza is a cog to this puzzle. The team is winning with lower ranked transfer players and great coaching.
    Last edited by bulldawg28; 01-02-2026 at 12:27 AM.

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    A good coach can overperform a program's level of spending by a game or 2 (see Indiana). A bad coach can underperform a program's level of spending by a game or 2 (see Mississippi State). But yes, in general, spending and success will be strongly correlated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    They're in the best conference, and they've rose to the top while having no history and less resources than their rich conf neighbors.
    We can't do what Indiana has done. Will never happen.

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    If Ole Miss can do it, so can we. It?s a long shot, but it?s possible. Need to make a move before the rules change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDawg View Post
    If Ole Miss can do it, so can we. It?s a long shot, but it?s possible. Need to make a move before the rules change.
    C34 is gonna be so pissed at you

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    Indiana's not matching Oregon and Ohio State but they are spending similar to Ole Miss on NIL

    Coaching gives them the extra advantage on the margins, but they are paying to be where they are.

    There is no world where you coach a sub-$20m roster into the playoffs. You have to push $25m in order for all the other things (coaching, development, etc) to begin to factor in.

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    Ole Miss has much better Leadership than MSU. MSU is ran by a Government Bureaucrat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WeWonItAll(Most) View Post
    Indiana's not matching Oregon and Ohio State but they are spending similar to Ole Miss on NIL

    Coaching gives them the extra advantage on the margins, but they are paying to be where they are.

    There is no world where you coach a sub-$20m roster into the playoffs. You have to push $25m in order for all the other things (coaching, development, etc) to begin to factor in.
    Outstanding post!

    Money is a big part of it. But it's everything coming together that makes it work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leeshouldveflanked View Post
    Ole Miss has much better Leadership than MSU. MSU is ran by a Government Bureaucrat.
    I think when it comes to football they have better vision on how to make it work.

    MSU on the other hand almost seems scared to compete in football sometimes. There is a lot of "we can't" from MSU football.

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    Maybe TT should've spent more on football operations and less on NIL??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turfdawg67 View Post


    Maybe TT should've spent more on football operations and less on NIL??
    No NIL is all that matters. I'd like that list to include all programs, playoffs or not

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    Quote Originally Posted by WeWonItAll(Most) View Post
    Indiana's not matching Oregon and Ohio State but they are spending similar to Ole Miss on NIL

    Coaching gives them the extra advantage on the margins, but they are paying to be where they are.

    There is no world where you coach a sub-$20m roster into the playoffs. You have to push $25m in order for all the other things (coaching, development, etc) to begin to factor in.
    I doubt Indiana's NIL was 25 million for 2025. The breakdown is needed not the total football department.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldawg28 View Post
    Explain what it is since your understand. They got a Qb transfer that's the brother to the backup. Mendoza was 12-14 as a Cal starter. Dude wasn't a winner until he came to Indiana. Indiana had 13 transfers from James Madison, that cost $30 million, right? Mendoza is a cog to this puzzle. The team is winning with lower ranked transfer players and great coaching.
    Amazing how "experts" disappear when they realize their agenda can't be supported by facts and that they don't know how to dialogue on a mature level

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    I think when it comes to football they have better vision on how to make it work.

    MSU on the other hand almost seems scared to compete in football sometimes. There is a lot of "we can't" from MSU football.
    Ole Dixie has old tradition that they build on and have always done. 11 Sugar Bowl appearances is pretty impressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WeWonItAll(Most) View Post
    Indiana's not matching Oregon and Ohio State but they are spending similar to Ole Miss on NIL

    Coaching gives them the extra advantage on the margins, but they are paying to be where they are.

    There is no world where you coach a sub-$20m roster into the playoffs. You have to push $25m in order for all the other things (coaching, development, etc) to begin to factor in.
    This is correct, you don?t stand a chance to allow for coaching to matter without the players and investment to begin with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldawg28 View Post
    I doubt Indiana's NIL was 25 million for 2025. The breakdown is needed not the total football department.
    This is the point everyone is ignoring. They didn't spend anywhere close to the big boys last year, and yet, they made the playoffs. That run is what fueled the funds to step it up a notch this season.

    If we made a run to get to the playoffs next season, our NIL would explode going into to 2027.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WeWonItAll(Most) View Post
    Indiana's not matching Oregon and Ohio State but they are spending similar to Ole Miss on NIL

    Coaching gives them the extra advantage on the margins, but they are paying to be where they are.

    There is no world where you coach a sub-$20m roster into the playoffs. You have to push $25m in order for all the other things (coaching, development, etc) to begin to factor in.
    Stop this making complete sense business. You’re gonna make us look bad.

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