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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    But they did program wise- 50% more than us. Think about that gap. Indiana spends more on football than 1/3 of the SEC. Almost half. All they did for 2025 was up their NIL. And now for 2026 they are going to double their spending on front office/coaching personnel. We arent doing that shit. Until we get a $50MM infusion into football which is about the equal of what we got into baseball last Spring-we arent going anywhere no matter who coaches us
    Show me a link of what they spend last year

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Shut up. They made the playoffs last year when they didn't spend a ton
    The link I posted above said they spent $62M, on football alone, in 2024. Up from $24M in 2021. That's some serious cash infusion to a program.

    ETA... he posted the same link as well
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    Here's sporting news on playoff NIL spending

    https://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa...2de9dc001aacf1

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Show me a link of what they spend last year
    I've already sent you a link. It clearly said they topped the conference median for spending in 2024. Wtf?

    You morons need to understand college football of old is gone. It doesnt matter what the name on the jersey says. Dolla bills ya'll. You cant compare anything from 2022 and beyond to 2019 and earlier. It's a new age with new rules.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Here's sporting news on playoff NIL spending

    https://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa...2de9dc001aacf1
    I saw that and its horribly wrong. Mississippi spent way more than that and there is no way to have so many NA's for public universities
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turfdawg67 View Post
    The link I posted above said they spent $62M, on football alone, in 2024. Up from $24M in 2021. That's some serious cash infusion to a program.
    They didn't spend 62 million on NIL. Are you insane?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    I've already sent you a link. It clearly said they topped the conference median for spending in 2024. Wtf?

    You morons need to understand college football of old is gone. It doesnt matter what the name on the jersey says. Dolla bills ya'll. You cant compare anything from 2022 and beyond to 2019 and earlier. It's a new age with new rules.
    Conf median on football spending. That isn't NIL

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    They didn't spend 62 million on NIL. Are you insane?
    Of course not. For all football operations.

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    ChatGPT says miss state spend 35.55 million on football this season, but that's not NIL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Conf median on football spending. That isn't NIL
    Holy crap- ok.

    Football spending spending is about how much they spend on the program. Analysts. Front office personnel. Guys that spend all day watching recruits video. Guys that eval every school's rosters. All that shit. Their budget for all that is 50% larger than ours. Then they got a huge boost in NIL on top of that. I can assure your NIL doesnt match Indy's when they pay they starter 2MM and our entire QB room was 1.5

    Argue all you want- other schools realize it takes money to fund the program. And we did it in baseball. We do it half ass in basketball. But in football we are bottom 10 in the P4 easy. Kansas spends more than us. Think about that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turfdawg67 View Post
    Of course not. For all football operations.
    My whole point of this thread is Indiana isn't spending on NIL like Ohio st, Michigan, Penn st, Oregon, etc., yet they're succeeding big time. That should be something to place hope on for a program like us. The chances of us pulling it off are small, but it does show a path for a smaller program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    ChatGPT says miss state spend 35.55 million on football this season, but that's not NIL.
    So Indiana spent almost twice as much as we did. There is your answer
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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    My whole point of this thread is Indiana isn't spending on NIL like Ohio st, Michigan, Penn st, Oregon, etc., yet they're succeeding big time. That should be something to place hope on for a program like us. The chances of us pulling it off are small, but it does show a path for a smaller program.
    Yet they spent 2MM on 1 QB- while our entire QB room was 1.5

    You arent making the point you thought you were
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Yet they spent 2MM on 1 QB- while our entire QB room was 1.5

    You arent making the point you thought you were
    So they made the playoffs last season and upped their lending this year, cool.

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    It's kinda ridiculous that every player's salary isn't public knowledge and easily searchable, like it is in the NFL.

    Earlier I was trying to figure out which G5 schools spend the closest to the P4 on NIL/salary, and it's just not available. I assume the answer is Memphis and Boise State, but who else? Fresno State? North Texas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    So they made the playoffs last season and upped their lending this year, cool.
    Well- get ready to contribute 100K to keep KT after he has a great season in 26. Because if he does? It will take 3-5MM to keep him. He wont turn down 5MM from Ohio St or Bama to stay at State for 2MM
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Also you fail to acknowledge that Cig brought about 25 players to Indy with him that were successful and good already. Thats a helluva base to build a team around.
    He brought James Madison players with him. Those players are Inexpensive and average football players. Nothing special or unique about them other than ultimate team players and he didn't have to build his team from the portal andr team chemistry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Well- get ready to contribute 100K to keep KT after he has a great season in 26. Because if he does? It will take 3-5MM to keep him. He wont turn down 5MM from Ohio St or Bama to stay at State for 2MM
    You are the pessimistic of pessimist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    They didn't spend 62 million on NIL. Are you insane?
    Exactly, they're beating teams with a roster full of James Madison transfers. They were glad for the opportunity to play on the big stage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldawg28 View Post
    He brought James Madison players with him. Those players are Inexpensive and average football players. .
    Apparently not. Mendoza is a 1st round draft pick. Soooooo no- they arent average. Tell Oregon they are average- they put 30 plus on their ass while TT couldnt do shit.
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