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    Quote Originally Posted by KB21 View Post
    The man destroyed the program. How can you not be upset at this hire?
    Overreaction. I was hoping for a young up and comer but ZA is a good to very good DC. He didn?t ruin the program. We hired a coach who runs a very specific system that isn?t dependent on top end talent. It worked?for Leach?but that personnel would have worked for no one else in the nation. He was a one-of-a-kind. In the end, the MSU president made a poor, panic hire and ZA accepted because who wouldn?t? Honestly, from a w/l standpoint he?s been about as successful as Lebby has been. Anyway, it?s a decent hire and we will be better next year if we handle the transfer portal correctly.

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    He is a good DC but context always matters and I think it is a really bad idea to bring him back UNLESS he is doing something crazy like coaching for 200k and telling us let him use $2M DC salary on players

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    A heck of a hire to me. The man is a defense worrier and knows how to create what causes problems for the offence. Most of all, he knows how to coach in the SEC. I can't understand why some people won't get on board with this..

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    Quote Originally Posted by CadaverDawg View Post
    Yep. Only our idiot fanbase would split on this hire and decide yet again not to pull the rope in the same direction. Ole Miss fans got the memo and rallied around a Pete Golding panic hire as head freaking coach, and we can't rally around a solid DC hire? Always our own worst enemy.

    And we wonder why they are a media darling and PR machine
    What does this even mean? Everyone rallied around Arnett the first time for HC. I even remember someone saying he would be our Saban which has my chuckling to myself now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEDawg View Post
    What does this even mean? Everyone rallied around Arnett the first time for HC. I even remember someone saying he would be our Saban which has my chuckling to myself now.
    Zach arnett 5-6 (.455) and Saban 15-17 (.469). Your friend made a great call... just the pro Saban.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    He only lost the complete respect of the team. On both sides of the ball. I'd definitely say he played a part.
    Totally and completely lost it. To the point of fighting after the UK game

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB**** View Post
    Totally and completely lost it. To the point of fighting after the UK game
    And when former players are a part of the funding of the program this makes this move even more questionable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TStationDawg View Post
    No he didn?t. This narrative needs to stop. Leach and his lack of recruiting ?killed? the program. Fact.
    That?s the narrative the Leach haters want to use. We won 9 games and had a top 25 EPA/play offensively in Leach?s last year, but it?s his fault we are in this situation. Not the meathead who took over for him and decided to completely change the offense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KB21 View Post
    That?s the narrative the Leach haters want to use. We won 9 games and had a top 25 EPA/play offensively in Leach?s last year, but it?s his fault we are in this situation. Not the meathead who took over for him and decided to completely change the offense.
    I may be surprised because I haven't cared to look but Lebby's offense probably scores quicker than Leach's too.

    Hope Arnett's boys aren't too tired like they were under Leach!***********

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    I may be surprised because I haven't cared to look but Lebby's offense probably scores quicker than Leach's too.

    Hope Arnett's boys aren't too tired like they were under Leach!***********
    I really hope we have a great season and you can?t even enjoy it cause you dislike the guy so much.

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    The only other coordinator spot he could have gotten was with App State.

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    Lotta talk about arnett ruining the offense, so I'd like an update on the 2 studs he had to choose from as OC. Miller and spurrier jr, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    And when former players are a part of the funding of the program this makes this move even more questionable.
    Will Rogers and Kobe Jones and Bookie aren?t giving jackshit to our program nor have the funds to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Lotta talk about arnett ruining the offense, so I'd like an update on the 2 studs he had to choose from as OC. Miller and spurrier jr, right?
    Let?s revisit. SS JR, whom many wanted to be the HC, was fired at Tulsa. Analyst now. Barbay and Will Friend-forced upon Arnett (as was Bumphis and David Turner) we know how that turned out. Ah how could we forget Brad Peterson and Steve Campbell.

    Also let?s not forget how our fans just had to have and get the likes of John Lewis, Ty Cooper, Stonka Burnside (I can keep going all night if naming these) of Madison and North MS kids who are overrated and needed to be paid high dollar signs and not contribute crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigplayslay View Post
    I really hope we have a great season and you can?t even enjoy it cause you dislike the guy so much.
    I hope we have a great season because I want MSU to win. Even if we go 12-0 I still will have zero respect for Arnett.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KB21 View Post
    The man destroyed the program. How can you not be upset at this hire?
    We're not cult-like psychopaths that actually care about Mississippi State over a coach or an offensive system

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    I hope we have a great season because I want MSU to win. Even if we go 12-0 I still will have zero respect for Arnett.
    Another cult member.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    And when former players are a part of the funding of the program this makes this move even more questionable.
    Arnett dmt want the hc job originally and basically came out and said he wasn't ready. We forced it on him with a panic hire and made the contract attractive enough to take it.

    Arnett and his family absolutely loved it here and didn't want to leave. He will be fine being the DC and there won't be any internal issues between him and lebby. They are both pretty similar dudes who take accountability and just want to win. Arnett is a hell of a defensive coach and he will do great here as long as we provide the sec talent at all three levels.

    Doesn't matter who the DC is if we don't get the dudes to play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KB21 View Post
    That?s the narrative the Leach haters want to use. We won 9 games and had a top 25 EPA/play offensively in Leach?s last year, but it?s his fault we are in this situation. Not the meathead who took over for him and decided to completely change the offense.
    John Cohen not raising money for NIL is what killed the program. It didn't matter who the coach was, we were going to fall off a cliff because Cohen didn't give a sh*t about any sport but baseball. It wasn't Leach or Arnett. Hell Arnett was in charge for 10 months. You can't kill a program that fast. Recruiting sucked because Cohen didn't do his job. Period. Lebby took over no talent because Cohen didn't raise money. That's it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KB21 View Post
    The man destroyed the program. How can you not be upset at this hire?
    He destroyed the program in one year? Nah fam. Stop pretending MSU fired Leach to hire Arnett to fit your narrative.

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