Arnettt is a DAMN good DC

[ArrowDawg]

Deep down MSU fans don't like this and they're trying to get to a point where they're coping.

Let's see here we have:

1. We had no choice had to hire Arnett. (Sounds familiar doesn't it?)

2. The DC Arnett wasn't the lying POS that the head coach Arnett was.

3. When his defense failed it was Leach's fault.

4. When he couldn't recruit it was Emerick and Dudek's fault.

5. Hey! Haven't you made bad mistakes in your life like backstab your co-workers and lie to everyone about what you were going to do so that you could keep the team together? (I have not for full disclosure)

6. 2023's defense doesn't count.

7. Maybe it will work. (We all know how this turns out)

Exactly, but we've become pros as a fan base at winning the off-season in our minds. Every recruiting class that has a dead last average rating in the SEC and every coaching change we make means we're rolling and about to kick butt in football................until we play the games and find out yet again that our poverty program is still in fact a poverty program.

[cheewgumm]

How so? We hired him. If he's the savior you think he is, then it doesn't matter what fans say.

98% of the time

Our fans are brain dead and wrong.

[DownwardDawg]

How so? We hired him. If he's the savior you think he is, then it doesn't matter what fans say.

Lmao. I never said he's savior. You sound like a dumbass. I said we can't have nice things because our fans fight about everything. Try to keep up. Next time you might want to read the entire threads before replying.

[cheewgumm]

Deep down MSU fans don't like this and they're trying to get to a point where they're coping.

Let's see here we have:

1. We had no choice had to hire Arnett. (Sounds familiar doesn't it?)

2. The DC Arnett wasn't the lying POS that the head coach Arnett was.

3. When his defense failed it was Leach's fault.

4. When he couldn't recruit it was Emerick and Dudek's fault.

5. Hey! Haven't you made bad mistakes in your life like backstab your co-workers and lie to everyone about what you were going to do so that you could keep the team together? (I have not for full disclosure)

6. 2023's defense doesn't count.

7. Maybe it will work. (We all know how this turns out)

Wait

We have actual stats by year that he coached our D.

How are those?

[Maroon Glasses]

Exactly, but we've become pros as a fan base at winning the off-season in our minds. Every recruiting class that has a dead last average rating in the SEC and every coaching change we make means we're rolling and about to kick butt in football................until we play the games and find out yet again that our poverty program is still in fact a poverty program.

Dammmnnn. Hard to argue with this. I've been saying "it's gonna be different next year" for 35 years now.

[was21]

Yes this is a fantastic hire.

He?s great.

Forget about what happened.

He can coach defense. Not even a question.

Right. Sometimes it's best to learn to compartmentalize. This is one of those times. He wasn't comfortable as a HC and the dollar signs diverted him. But a very good DC.

[Quaoarsking]

This is fact. This is why Ole Miss is seen as a much bigger program nationally than State. It's all sunshine, unicorns, and rainbows coming out of that place. Everything they do is absolutely fantastic and better than what everyone else does. We suck at pulling together and putting out a unified message.

No, I think Ole Miss is seen as bigger than us because they are headed to the playoffs and have won 10 games in 4 of the last 5 seasons, while we're on our 3rd straight year of missing a bowl.

If Ole Miss beats Virginia or whoever in their first round playoff game, they'll have won as many games this year than we have in the last 3 years combined.

I hate it as much as we all do, but trying to say it's all just the mindset of their fans and not the on-field performance of the team does us no favors.

[Quaoarsking]

Wait

We have actual stats by year that he coached our D.

How are those?

Pretty good, but Lebby is no Leach, and Arnett has apparently had some kind of mental breakdown in the years since he was last an on-field coach, so who knows if he will replicate the old days in 2026.

[DownwardDawg]

No, I think Ole Miss is seen as bigger than us because they are headed to the playoffs and have won 10 games in 4 of the last 5 seasons, while we're on our 3rd straight year of missing a bowl.

If Ole Miss beats Virginia or whoever in their first round playoff game, they'll have won as many games this year than we have in the last 3 years combined.

I hate it as much as we all do, but trying to say it's all just the mindset of their fans and not the on-field performance of the team does us no favors.

Not disagreeing with you, but it started way before this year unfortunately.

[EdwardDrayton]

Yep. Only our idiot fanbase would split on this hire and decide yet again not to pull the rope in the same direction. Ole Miss fans got the memo and rallied around a Pete Golding panic hire as head freaking coach, and we can't rally around a solid DC hire? Always our own worst enemy.

And we wonder why they are a media darling and PR machine

This is such a tired bullshit narrative.

[msstate7]

This is the best I've felt about Lebby. Calling up arnett isn't something a guy that lets pride get in the way of winning does. Lebby swallowed his pride and made it happen bc he knows ZA can coach defense. Good job, coach

[Activated Alpha]

So far I have only seen Todd really upset about Arnett. Maybe there are more. But are you partly upset about the fact that Arnett was named DC and not some of the other 3 we heard because if Lebby doesn?t perform than your darling HC is fired?

[KB21]

I don't remember many studs on defense under Arnett.

Forbes and Young come to mind. But we wasn't loaded with talent under him.

Which goes back to his lack of recruiting but also shows he can do it with less talent. If he has learned to recruit then that's even better. Actually don't even worry about recruiting... just pay them.

Forbes, Emerson, Decam, Young, Errol, Bookie, Jett, Crumedy, Wheat, Pickering?.and he didn?t recruit a single one of them.

[bigplayslay]

So far I have only seen Todd really upset about Arnett. Maybe there are more. But are you partly upset about the fact that Arnett was named DC and not some of the other 3 we heard because if Lebby doesn?t perform than your darling HC is fired?

Todd knows him personally. He?s not a ?respectable human being?

[Quaoarsking]

This is the best I've felt about Lebby. Calling up arnett isn't something a guy that lets pride get in the way of winning does. Lebby swallowed his pride and made it happen bc he knows ZA can coach defense. Good job, coach

Interesting take that hadn't occurred to me. It seems like Arnett is the one swallowing his pride here.

[msstate7]

So far I have only seen Todd really upset about Arnett. Maybe there are more. But are you partly upset about the fact that Arnett was named DC and not some of the other 3 we heard because if Lebby doesn?t perform than your darling HC is fired?

Yeah, pickings for a guy entering the season on the hot seat aren't gonna be the best. Fortunately for Lebby and us, we found a guy that has actual recent success in the sec... and he had it at a school just like us (haha)

[msstate7]

Interesting take that hadn't occurred to me. It seems like Arnett is the one swallowing his pride here.

Both did.

[msstate7]

Forbes, Emerson, Decam, Young, Errol, Bookie, Jett, Crumedy, Wheat, Pickering?.and he didn?t recruit a single one of them.

Yeah, our recruiting sucked under leach. Yall championing Lebby's recruiting though, right?

[TStationDawg]

The man destroyed the program. How can you not be upset at this hire?

No he didn?t. This narrative needs to stop. Leach and his lack of recruiting ?killed? the program. Fact.

[Activated Alpha]

I will say I am happy with Lebby?s offense. I want him to succeed. Hopefully Arnett will improve the offense so we can win some games