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12-06-2025, 09:53 AM
#141
Better than Hutz but absolutely underwhelming.
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12-06-2025, 09:54 AM
#142

Originally Posted by
msudawg1200
Arnett's defenses ranked in the Top 5 of the SEC while he was DC from 20-22.. Hutzler's defenses ranked 16th and 15th (thanks Arkansas) in his two years, including the 3rd worst in P4 in 2024 with an overall ranking of 126 out of 134 teams, and in 2025 the 11th worst in P4 and 104 out of 136 teams. Historically the worst defenses in MSU history.
Arnett was 52nd in 2020, 29th in 2021, and 35th in 2022. Give us that type of production this year, and we are 9-3 going to a Florida bowl.
Yea not sure why all the disappointment other than people getting excited about some huge names we were supposedly in on. Dude was relatively highly thought as an up and coming dc when we hired him under leach and he did a really solid job in that role. He wasn't ready to be a head coach and he knew that. He was really solid at what we originally hired him to do which was put a fast aggressive defense on the field.
We were gonna have to go get some dudes regardless of who the coordinator was going to be.
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12-06-2025, 09:54 AM
#143

Originally Posted by
BuckyIsAB****
It was fun at times boys but I think im done. Ever since cohen got AD and Leach died this school just went off the rails, jumped 3 ditches and landed in a nuclear plant. Yall give em hell
I'm coming with you. We really are little brother U
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12-06-2025, 10:00 AM
#144
There's a lot of time between now and next season. Arnett is known to change his mind and be a quitter.
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12-06-2025, 10:04 AM
#145

Originally Posted by
KB21
This is such a letdown. I'm sure some will love it, but you are bringing back the man who destroyed the program. Someone is going to have to convince me why this is good.
He was good as a DC. He is not a head coach and we did not hire him for that role today. We now have money to spend in the portal and he will have plenty of talent to work with. He will do fine. You love Mike Leach and Leach thought a lot of him as a DC. Not sure why that opinion would have changed. He?s done nothing but field good defenses in that role.
Last edited by Jarius; 12-06-2025 at 10:13 AM.
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12-06-2025, 10:06 AM
#146
I do not hate it but it is so awkward. He better hire some good recruiters.
Arnett working for the guy that replaced him. Arnett must love Starkville
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12-06-2025, 10:07 AM
#147
Senior Member
How much they gonna pay him? We were told on this board they had 2 to 2.5 for DC.
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12-06-2025, 10:09 AM
#148
One other positive about ZA, he has shown that he can run a good defensive unit without supervision from the HC and off the field staff. That can free Lebby a little more to not have to worry over the defense as much.
I still think we might should have gone a different route but it's Lebby's job on the line.
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12-06-2025, 10:17 AM
#149
I thought Arnette did a great job as DC. Certainly not an Arnett fan due to character flaws, but his defense was good.
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12-06-2025, 10:20 AM
#150
Bo Bounds calls Arnett a massive upgrade, which means this is a terrible decision. If Bo thinks it?s a good move, that should be a red flag. Particularly since he?s a mouthpiece for the Madison bunch.
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12-06-2025, 10:27 AM
#151

Originally Posted by
KB21
Bo Bounds calls Arnett a massive upgrade, which means this is a terrible decision. If Bo thinks it?s a good move, that should be a red flag. Particularly since he?s a mouthpiece for the Madison bunch.
I mean comparatively and statistically speaking to who we had, Bo ain't exactly wrong. I get your frustration but I think it's tied to his HC job and completely tearing down the Air Raid offense. Separate that from his DC role which he was good. I'm not 100% sold on the move because it's been such a short time since he was HC and we need some dawg recruiters to come in to help.
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12-06-2025, 10:27 AM
#152

Originally Posted by
KB21
Bo Bounds calls Arnett a massive upgrade, which means this is a terrible decision. If Bo thinks it?s a good move, that should be a red flag. Particularly since he?s a mouthpiece for the Madison bunch.
Well in his defense, we could have hired Juice the dog away from LK and it would have been a massive upgrade.
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12-06-2025, 10:28 AM
#153
I think we?ll be fine if we can keep Arnett fully clothed.
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12-06-2025, 10:30 AM
#154

Originally Posted by
DownwardDawg
I thought Arnette did a great job as DC. Certainly not an Arnett fan due to character flaws, but his defense was good.
Well he probalbly got drunk and took a ride thru there but hell everybody deserves to get drunk every now and then. LK has a character flaw but it's not considered comical just disloyal.
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12-06-2025, 10:37 AM
#155

Originally Posted by
THE Bruce Dickinson
I'm coming with you. We really are little brother U
The funny thing about this is I have Ole Miss people texting me that this was a heck of a hire
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12-06-2025, 10:38 AM
#156

Originally Posted by
KB21
Bo Bounds calls Arnett a massive upgrade, which means this is a terrible decision. If Bo thinks it?s a good move, that should be a red flag. Particularly since he?s a mouthpiece for the Madison bunch.
Well. The only thing I have an option in considering here is the results. What were his results everywhere he has been a DC at? That includes MSU. https://stats.ncaa.org/rankings/rank...m_individual=T
There are some great numbers in there. Top 5 in conference play in fact.
The one thing I would like to see is if Arnett was here this season, would it have made a difference. In his last season as DC, 23.1 PPG across 13 games, finishing 20th nationally. In SEC play, 29.17 Somebody double check that
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12-06-2025, 10:42 AM
#157
Matt Brock is coming back!
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12-06-2025, 10:43 AM
#158
It's all good. OM gonna send us their lemon Pledge and a microfiber cloth. So we can put the shine on our own ...... well, you know.
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12-06-2025, 10:55 AM
#159
It's an underwhelming hire if you look at the names that was getting thrown around. But I will say this.. if you look past the whole HC disaster and try and look past that entire situation, it's a big upgrade from Hutz. It's hard not to have a cloudy vision with how everything went down and now Arnett being brought right back into the fire. But Arnett is not a bad DC and I think we all would be a little happier if everything didn't happen the way it happened. His defenses are usually pretty good and we know that.
Personally, I would have loved if we hired Armstrong. Oh and now we have someone with HC experience that can help Lebby with in game decisions.************
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12-06-2025, 11:02 AM
#160
Did we strike out on all our listed choices because of Lebby’s job security? Or was arnett a top choice of boosters?
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