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12-06-2025, 09:22 AM
#121
This sucks. Screams booster hire
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12-06-2025, 09:27 AM
#122
His defense was for the most part pretty good with limited defensive talent coming in with Leach
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12-06-2025, 09:29 AM
#123

Originally Posted by
chef dixon
His defense was for the most part pretty good with limited defensive talent coming in with Leach
He inherited two NFL CBs, an NFL LB, and two NFL DL.
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12-06-2025, 09:29 AM
#124
In the portal era, how many of our guys actually played for him? I am all on board for this.
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12-06-2025, 09:30 AM
#125
Hey, we hired a DC with head coaching experience, that's what we were shooting for!****
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12-06-2025, 09:32 AM
#126
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12-06-2025, 09:34 AM
#127
We better hire some damn good recruiters. If you can do that, this might work. But damn those recruiters are going to have to be great. It is going to take elite recruiters and a lot of money to convince a DL to come here and play in a 3-3-5
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12-06-2025, 09:36 AM
#128

Originally Posted by
Coursesuper
I don?t love this either, but some of yall really just have no clue how things actually worked. Might want to aim more of that vitriol at Madison county.
I admit I?m clueless. So I?m guessing a or several big boosters reside In Madison county? And if so were they responsible for blowing up the air raid when Arnett was hired as HC or did Arnett do that by himself? Asking for a friend?..
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12-06-2025, 09:36 AM
#129
It was fun at times boys but I think im done. Ever since cohen got AD and Leach died this school just went off the rails, jumped 3 ditches and landed in a nuclear plant. Yall give em hell
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12-06-2025, 09:39 AM
#130

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
We better hire some damn good recruiters. If you can do that, this might work. But damn those recruiters are going to have to be great. It is going to take elite recruiters and a lot of money to convince a DL to come here and play in a 3-3-5
Is this a situation where his agent reached out to us to let us to know he was interested or did we reach out to him? If we were the ones to make contact, we must have missed on several other targets.It seems like a settle hire if it happens.
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12-06-2025, 09:42 AM
#131
Well boys and girls this is setting up as ZA 2.0 interim coach come 7 games in
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12-06-2025, 09:44 AM
#132
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12-06-2025, 09:45 AM
#133
Now i know how aTm fans felt when they heard Mark Stoops.
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12-06-2025, 09:46 AM
#134

Originally Posted by
sandjunky
Well boys and girls this is setting up as ZA 2.0 interim coach come 7 games in
Groundhog Day ll. Playing at a theater near you soon.
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12-06-2025, 09:48 AM
#135
SVS, is this for sure happening, and who?s behind it?
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12-06-2025, 09:48 AM
#136
Arnett's defenses ranked in the Top 5 of the SEC while he was DC from 20-22.. Hutzler's defenses ranked 16th and 15th (thanks Arkansas) in his two years, including the 3rd worst in P4 in 2024 with an overall ranking of 126 out of 134 teams, and in 2025 the 11th worst in P4 and 104 out of 136 teams. Historically the worst defenses in MSU history.
Arnett was 52nd in 2020, 29th in 2021, and 35th in 2022. Give us that type of production this year, and we are 9-3 going to a Florida bowl.
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12-06-2025, 09:51 AM
#137
Matt Brock is coming back as well.
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12-06-2025, 09:52 AM
#138

Originally Posted by
msudawg1200
Arnett's defenses ranked in the Top 5 of the SEC while he was DC from 20-22.. Hutzler's defenses ranked 16th and 15th (thanks Arkansas) in his two years, including the 3rd worst in P4 in 2024 with an overall ranking of 126 out of 134 teams, and in 2025 the 11th worst in P4 and 104 out of 136 teams. Historically the worst defenses in MSU history.
Arnett was 52nd in 2020, 29th in 2021, and 35th in 2022. Give us that type of production this year, and we are 9-3 going to a Florida bowl.
Someone pointed out that we had several NFL players on those teams in this thread. That makes a whole hell of a difference in outcomes!
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12-06-2025, 09:52 AM
#139

Originally Posted by
msudawg1200
Arnett's defenses ranked in the Top 5 of the SEC while he was DC from 20-22.. Hutzler's defenses ranked 16th and 15th (thanks Arkansas) in his two years, including the 3rd worst in P4 in 2024 with an overall ranking of 126 out of 134 teams, and in 2025 the 11th worst in P4 and 104 out of 136 teams. Historically the worst defenses in MSU history.
Arnett was 52nd in 2020, 29th in 2021, and 35th in 2022. Give us that type of production this year, and we are 9-3 going to a Florida bowl.
This. Also, Lebby is not going to hire a guy he cannot work with. I am sure they ironed out details and how things will work. Selmon fired the guy, and he gave it a pass. You have to get through the surface to see what he can do here.
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12-06-2025, 09:52 AM
#140
This would be a bold move, Cotton!
In fairness to Zach, his defenses were actually as good or better than what Armstrong has put on the field. But could be really awkward and we need a great transfer portal haul. Not sure if this gets it done.
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