Ole Miss AD Keith Carter

[Santiago]

We did the same thing hiring Arnett but our situation was much worse - we had no warning it was coming. We had the option to release Arnett and that is what we did. An audition is exactly what Arnett got.

plus we did not try to save the offensive staff to keep continuity for a season. Ole Miss at least was trying to hold the staff together.

[Jarius]

For over a year now, I've read on this board and another board that Ole Miss has an actual AD, unlike State. Carter is a top notch AD who knows what he's doing and has his shit together.

So let me get this straight, everyone in the world knew Kiffin was leaving. Kiffin drug his balls all over Carter and then Carter instantly promoted their DC to head coach.
Yeah, he's really got his shit together.......

Carter got lucky in 2 coaching searches where other schools would not touch guys and he just went all in on character risks and hit it big. If there isn't a shady character guy that no one else wants he isn't any better than anyone else.

[Jarius]

Hell no it wasnt. The smart thing would have been to let Lame coach the playoffs and during that time you could properly vet some coaches. Golding was still there for you 3-4 weeks from now. Carter and their people look like morons who couldnt handle getting broken up with. Their fanbase has been an embarrassment the last week. Total shitshow

Not letting Lane coach the playoffs was the dumbest thing I have ever seen. They tried to act like they were worried about him poaching players (as if he won't get the ones he wants anyway) and then took the OC back to let him coach in the playoffs.....the same OC that is going to be at LSU. Guess he is different than Lane and won't be trying to do that. They were just mad they got shown that they were a bottom tier SEC program and were willing to throw away the only chance they will ever have to win anything meaningful in football. Dumbass move of the century.

[Political Hack]

Hell no it wasnt. The smart thing would have been to let Lame coach the playoffs and during that time you could properly vet some coaches. Golding was still there for you 3-4 weeks from now. Carter and their people look like morons who couldnt handle getting broken up with. Their fanbase has been an embarrassment the last week. Total shitshow

100%. It's their only chance to win a natty and their AD flushed it over pride and ego. Typically for that group, but extremely short sited.

[Jarius]

Whole lot of difference in Tulane coach and Kiffin. It should have never come down to the last-minute deciding. That is a terrible business. If Kiffin would have been allowed to Coach, I think he takes more players and coaches to Red Stick. Plus look how he bashed Carter and Ole Dixie now! There locker room is mess either way and again I blame Carter BUT I am happy what is being played out! LOL.

Not hardly. This is insane. You would have forced a guy under an 8 year contract to make a decision? Oh really? How would you have done that? Fired him and paid his 50 million dollar buyout for not answering you when you demanded it when he's already under contract? You have zero leverage and if you're worried about people poaching players, why are you allowing the OC of LSU to be in your building for the next month? Is Tulane not worried about that? How about JMU? This is all just bull sh*t. The major difference between Tulane's situation and OM's situation is Tulane doesn't have a dumba$$ AD that tried to bully their head coach and give him an "ultimatum" a month before the season ended. Most coaches would react poorly to some idiot at a lesser program being so ungrateful to what you have done for their sh*tty a$$ program.

[viverlibre]

Whole lot of difference in Tulane coach and Kiffin. It should have never come down to the last-minute deciding. That is a terrible business. If Kiffin would have been allowed to Coach, I think he takes more players and coaches to Red Stick. Plus look how he bashed Carter and Ole Dixie now! There locker room is mess either way and again I blame Carter BUT I am happy what is being played out! LOL.

^^^^this

The situations are different. Tulane is a not a rival of UF's and likely Tulane has few players that Sumerall will want at UF.

There is no way they could have/should have left Lame stay and coach in the playoffs, absolutely way. OM is not going to win the natty this year anyway, no matter if Lame stayed or not. Have you guys not seen the OM fan reactions?

[viverlibre]

100%. It's their only chance to win a natty and their AD flushed it over pride and ego. Typically for that group, but extremely short sited.

Dude, they don't have any realistic chance at the natty, come on, you can't be that naive.

[viverlibre]

Hell no it wasnt. The smart thing would have been to let Lame coach the playoffs and during that time you could properly vet some coaches. Golding was still there for you 3-4 weeks from now. Carter and their people look like morons who couldnt handle getting broken up with. Their fanbase has been an embarrassment the last week. Total shitshow

Tell me a "name" coach they are going to get this year? Gruden or Urban are about the only two names left that would satisfy the fanbase.

From what I've been hearing for weeks is the Carter has been on a coaching search (contacting agents) in the likely event that Kiffin was leaving, this wasn't a surprise to anyone. Certainly he didn't get any interest from a big enough name that would satisfy the fanbase. Roll with Pete in 2026, if he doesn't pan out, fire him early and be first inline during the next hiring cycle.

From everything I've read, Sumrall was who Carter wanted, but with UF being open Sumrall wasn't going to commit to OM.

[Brobi-wan]

Tell me a "name" coach they are going to get this year? Gruden or Urban are about the only two names left that would satisfy the fanbase.

From what I've been hearing for weeks is the Carter has been on a coaching search (contacting agents) in the likely event that Kiffin was leaving, this wasn't a surprise to anyone. Certainly he didn't get any interest from a big enough name that would satisfy the fanbase. Roll with Pete in 2026, if he doesn't pan out, fire him early and be first inline during the next hiring cycle.

We have lived that one. They’ll be in trouble next year. With everyone portaling out it will be a year or two rebuild. They won’t be down forever. Hopefully long enough for us to take control of the state

[Jarius]

^^^^this

The situations are different. Tulane is a not a rival of UF's and likely Tulane has few players that Sumerall will want at UF.

There is no way they could have/should have left Lame stay and coach in the playoffs, absolutely way. OM is not going to win the natty this year anyway, no matter if Lame stayed or not. Have you guys not seen the OM fan reactions?

The situations are not different. They are fine with Charlie Weiss being in the building. You think he is not going to be doing the same thing Lane would be doing? Newsflash: if Lane wants the players at Ole Miss they are going to LSU, whether they are in the building or not. Those 2 programs are not in the same league, which is why Kiffin left. Ole Miss is mad because they do not want to face that reality and that is the core of all of the hate.

[Political Hack]

Dude, they don't have any realistic chance at the natty, come on, you can't be that naive.

There are 12 teams that have a shot at the natty. Realistically.

[Saltydog]

Kiffin just drug his balls all over Carter's chin.......... He looks like an absolute clown after this fiasco........

[viverlibre]

The situations are not different. They are fine with Charlie Weiss being in the building. You think he is not going to be doing the same thing Lane would be doing? Newsflash: if Lane wants the players at Ole Miss they are going to LSU, whether they are in the building or not. Those 2 programs are not in the same league, which is why Kiffin left. Ole Miss is mad because they do not want to face that reality and that is the core of all of the hate.

You must not be paying attention. Have you not seen fan reaction to Kiffin leaving? ADs pay attention to fan perception, Charlie wasn't the target of their anger, Kiffin was/is, there was no way they could left Kiffin be the leader of the program, and run recruiting/portal for both programs.

Again OM fan considers LSU a hated rival and they play every year. After this, they will consider LSU a bigger rival than us.

There's absolutely no connection between Tulane and UF.

[viverlibre]

There are 12 teams that have a shot at the natty. Realistically only four teams have a chance to win it.

FIFY. Seriously, if Lane thought they had a realistic chance, he wouldn't have left.

[Jarius]

You must not be paying attention. Have you not seen fan reaction to Kiffin leaving? ADs pay attention to fan perception, Charlie wasn't the target of their anger, Kiffin was/is, there was no way they could left Kiffin be the leader of the program, and run recruiting/portal for both programs.

Again OM fan considers LSU a hated rival and they play every year. After this, they will consider LSU a bigger rival than us.

There's absolutely no connection between Tulane and UF.

Yes, I saw it. The reason their fan reaction was that way was because their AD is a dumb@$$ and handled it poorly and threw it all on Kiffin after he made a bunch of ignorant decisions. If the people that covered that program would have been fed different information that didn't frame the best coach they have ever had as a villain for taking a much much much much much better job that is nowhere close to being on the same level as Ole Miss, there would be no fan reaction. He would have been able to leave gracefully. Instead, their meathead AD decided to poke the bear and paint the best coach they will ever have as a turd just because he didn't view Ole Miss as the mecca of college football and got his fanbase to hate the guy and now here we are. Carter and that administration caused all of this.

[Jarius]

FIFY. Seriously, if Lane thought they had a realistic chance, he wouldn't have left.

Are you an Ole Miss fan or something? Lane could have had the 85 bears this year and he was leaving. LSU is an elite job that doesn't have to solely rely on the portal. LSU can actually use the portal as a supplemental piece and rely on home grown talent to fill a lot of the roster. Ole Miss is going to have to hit on an ultra high rate of portal guys every year which is really hard to do. The reason he's not coaching OM is because the OM AD is an idiot that threw the only chance they will ever have to win a title down the toilet. Kiffin did not want to leave prior to the playoffs being over.

[Cowbeller]

FIFY. Seriously, if Lane thought they had a realistic chance, he wouldn't have left.

He tried to coach them bc he did think it was possible. He was forced out early but leaving had nothing to do with this years chances

[viverlibre]

He tried to coach them bc he did think it was possible. He was forced out early but leaving had nothing to do with this years chances

He could have strung LSU out even longer. Lane's value isn't going down any time soon, no matter if he stayed at OM and went 8-4 next season. If he thought OM had a chance, and he would know, he wouldn't have made his move when he did. Even if LSU moved on, there'll be another high profile job come open in the next year or two.

OM doesn't have a shot at the natty, the only teams that can challenge TOSU (based on the most recent playoff projections): first tier - UGA, Bama, Indiana. second tier - TAMU, Oregon. That's it.

No one, but folks on this board think OM will challenge for the natty.

[basedog]

Not hardly. This is insane. You would have forced a guy under an 8 year contract to make a decision? Oh really? How would you have done that? Fired him and paid his 50 million dollar buyout for not answering you when you demanded it when he's already under contract? You have zero leverage and if you're worried about people poaching players, why are you allowing the OC of LSU to be in your building for the next month? Is Tulane not worried about that? How about JMU? This is all just bull sh*t. The major difference between Tulane's situation and OM's situation is Tulane doesn't have a dumba$$ AD that tried to bully their head coach and give him an "ultimatum" a month before the season ended. Most coaches would react poorly to some idiot at a lesser program being so ungrateful to what you have done for their sh*tty a$$ program.

Like i said, Carter screwed this situation. He should have suspended Kiffin from coaching and kept paying him. Kiffin would have had to make a deciision are file a law suit.

[Jarius]

Like i said, Carter screwed this situation. He should have suspended Kiffin from coaching and kept paying him. Kiffin would have had to make a deciision are file a law suit.

If you never want to hire another coach with options again for as long as you are an AD you could do this. Holy hell what a bad idea.