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12-01-2025, 10:57 AM
#141

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
I'm with Tater on this. If y'all want to create a megathread to reignite the Air Raid vs Ground and Pound people arguing in different form, go right ahead. But every thread doesn't have to be hijacked into the same talking points.
Anyone that would take Shapen over KT going forward is a moron, period
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12-01-2025, 11:00 AM
#142

Originally Posted by
msstate7
Anyone that would take Shapen over KT going forward is a moron, period
I don't disagree with you. Actually stated that on Friday after the game. But that's not the point. The point is, if y'all want to argue another iteration of Leach vs Anti Leach( This time it's Lebby vs Mullen/ Shapen vs Kamario) then just create a separate thread for it. I bet Scooba would even sticky it to the top for everyone.
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12-01-2025, 11:01 AM
#143

Originally Posted by
msstate7
Shapen won exactly 1 sec game.
Shapen doesnt play defense. We gave up 38 PPG in conference games.
You can post all the stats you want- at the end of the day the only stat that matters is points scored. He scored 19. 2nd worst all year. You cant statsplain that away. Will he be good for us next year? 100%. Will it be tough for us to keep him for his Jr year? 100%.
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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12-01-2025, 11:02 AM
#144

Originally Posted by
msstate7
Anyone that would take Shapen over KT going forward is a moron, period
Who said they would? I havent seen anybody post that
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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12-01-2025, 11:02 AM
#145

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
I don't disagree with you. Actually stated that on Friday after the game. But that's not the point. The point is, if y'all want to argue another iteration of Leach vs Anti Leach( This time it's Lebby vs Mullen/ Shapen vs Kamario) then just create a separate thread for it. I bet Scooba would even sticky it to the top for everyone.
Any thread that turns in to a run down our future qb will be a thread I go down swinging in on his behalf
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12-01-2025, 11:03 AM
#146

Originally Posted by
Coach34
Shapen doesnt play defense. We gave up 38 PPG in conference games.
You can post all the stats you want- at the end of the day the only stat that matters is points scored. He scored 19. 2nd worst all year. You cant statsplain that away. Will he be good for us next year? 100%. Will it be tough for us to keep him for his Jr year? 100%.
Sec tds this season...
Shapen 10 (283 touches) = td every 28.3 touches
KT 10* (109 touches) = td every 10.9 touches
*if you throw out stats where Shapen started the drive, this goes to...
8 TD (97 touches) = 1 td every 12.1 touches
KT is the more explosive player and it isn't even close. This is bore out in QBR.
If you wanna use ppg in sec play, KT accounted for the same amount in half the plays
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12-01-2025, 11:05 AM
#147

Originally Posted by
msstate7
Sec tds this season...
Shapen 10 (283 touches) = td every 28.3 touches
KT 10* (109 touches) = td every 10.9 touches
*if you throw out stats where Shapen started the drive, this goes to...
8 TD (97 touches) = 1 td every 12.1 touches
KT is the more explosive player and it isn't even close. This is bore out in QBR.
If you wanna use ppg in sec play, KT accounted for the same amount in half the plays
Explain to me this simple football thing please.
This is old school as it gets. 40 base, pinch, cover cloud. What does that mean?
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12-01-2025, 11:06 AM
#148

Originally Posted by
msstate7
Shapen won exactly 1 sec game, and in that game KT accounted for the same amount of tds as shapen.
Sec tds this season...
Shapen 10 (283 touches) = td every 28.3 touches
KT 10* (109 touches) = td every 10.9 touches
*if you throw out stats where Shapen started the drive, this goes to...
8 TD (97 touches) = 1 td every 12.1 touches
KT is the more explosive player and it isn't even close. This is bore out in QBR.
WTH? LOL! WOW.
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12-01-2025, 11:07 AM
#149

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
I'm with Tater on this. If y'all want to create a megathread to reignite the Air Raid vs Ground and Pound people arguing in different form, go right ahead. But every thread doesn't have to be hijacked into the same talking points.
^^^^^
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12-01-2025, 11:09 AM
#150

Originally Posted by
msstate7
Shapen and Lebby - good
KT and Mullen - bad
No.
Lebby and Shapen - Great. Why? The OL sucked ass and could not block How we were even in those games with this Roster is a massive credit to them.
Mullen, has nothing to do with KT. He will never be at MSU again. He burned his bridges and we have a better coach now.
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12-01-2025, 11:09 AM
#151

Originally Posted by
Coursesuper
Explain to me this simple football thing please.
This is old school as it gets. 40 base, pinch, cover cloud. What does that mean?
4 down linemen
Slant to inside
Corners low, safety deep
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12-01-2025, 11:13 AM
#152

Originally Posted by
Coach34
Who said they would? I havent seen anybody post that
Nobody has stated that.
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12-01-2025, 11:15 AM
#153

Originally Posted by
msstate7
4 down linemen
Slant to inside
Corners low, safety deep
Close cover 4. Now lets move on a little dont' google it this time. 41 scrape drop 2 halves.
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12-01-2025, 11:16 AM
#154

Originally Posted by
msstate7
Any thread that turns in to a run down our future qb will be a thread I go down swinging in on his behalf
Then why are you talking? Nobody has run down KT.
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12-01-2025, 11:21 AM
#155

Originally Posted by
BlackSailsDawg
No.
Lebby and Shapen - Great. Why? The OL sucked ass and could not block How we were even in those games with this Roster is a massive credit to them.
Mullen, has nothing to do with KT. He will never be at MSU again. He burned his bridges and we have a better coach now.
Lebby chose KT.
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12-01-2025, 11:21 AM
#156

Originally Posted by
Coursesuper
Close cover 4. Now lets move on a little dont' google it this time. 41 scrape drop 2 halves.
What's the point of this? You asked your question, and I answered.
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12-01-2025, 11:31 AM
#157

Originally Posted by
msstate7
Lebby chose KT.
Do you get off on making arguments against things nobody has even argued?
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12-01-2025, 11:33 AM
#158

Originally Posted by
msstate7
What's the point of this? You asked your question, and I answered.
Baseline understanding, If you don't want to okay.
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12-01-2025, 11:41 AM
#159

Originally Posted by
msstate7
What's the point of this? You asked your question, and I answered.
It is a little strange.
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12-01-2025, 11:45 AM
#160

Originally Posted by
Turfdawg67
It is a little strange.
You can always text me.
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