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    Just a few of the possible DC names I have heard. And by the way, I don't know the validity to any of them or if we've had contact with any of their representation, outside of a couple of them.

    Brent Pry-I know we've put out some feelers with him. I think this would be an incredible hire.

    Justin Wilcox-No clue on the validity of that one. I just know his reps have reached out to a lot of P4 programs and said he'd be interested in being a DC.

    Ron Roberts-You can kind of connect the dots on that one. I do think there's a chance he heads to OM with Pete though.

    Austin Armstrong-Currently at Houston and was at Florida with Billy before that. He also worked at USM with Jay Hopson. I think we could get him if we made a push.

    Danny Gonzalez-Currently at AZ. He's from the Rocky Long coaching tree.


    Also, the rumor is again out there that we may move Coleman to STC. I don't put a whole lot of stock in it tbh because we heard that last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    Just a few of the possible DC names I have heard. And by the way, I don't know the validity to any of them or if we've had contact with any of their representation, outside of a couple of them.

    Brent Pry-I know we've put out some feelers with him. I think this would be an incredible hire.

    Justin Wilcox-No clue on the validity of that one. I just know his reps have reached out to a lot of P4 programs and said he'd be interested in being a DC.

    Ron Roberts-You can kind of connect the dots on that one. I do think there's a chance he heads to OM with Pete though.

    Austin Armstrong-Currently at Houston and was at Florida with Billy before that. He also worked at USM with Jay Hopson. I think we could get him if we made a push.

    Danny Gonzalez-Currently at AZ. He's from the Rocky Long coaching tree.


    Also, the rumor is again out there that we may move Coleman to STC. I don't put a whole lot of stock in it tbh because we heard that last year.
    If we could pull Armstrong away from Houston that would be a fantastic addition, I love to watch his defenses work. Does as much or more with the back end of the defense play to play as anyone in the country.

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    I will also try to see what I can found out about Brad White today and the weird Muschamp rumor, which is not KB just spitting BS. There's some legs to it. There's a couple of boosters who are like defiantly confident we'll announce Will before the end of the week.

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    Biggest thing we need is to find a guy that networks and can find us some cheap animals on D that can spot start or provide quality depth on D. There's 150 guys we could hire that know the X's and O's part of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Biggest thing we need is to find a guy that networks and can find us some cheap animals on D that can spot start or provide quality depth on D. There's 150 guys we could hire that know the X's and O's part of it.
    Yep. Even if it isn't the actual DC... we have to scout better than our richer neighbors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coursesuper View Post
    If we could pull Armstrong away from Houston that would be a fantastic addition, I love to watch his defenses work. Does as much or more with the back end of the defense play to play as anyone in the country.
    Armstrong has family in the central MS area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    I will also try to see what I can found out about Brad White today and the weird Muschamp rumor, which is not KB just spitting BS. There's some legs to it. There's a couple of boosters who are like defiantly confident we'll announce Will before the end of the week.
    It fits with the idea that Hutzler could be reassigned to coach special teams. The opportunity to get most of Muschamp's defensive staff from his days at South Carolina is there, as Travaris Robinson could be a candidate to replace the safeties coach.

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    I guess my question is How much as we will willing to go on a DC? Are we willing to spend 1.5 to 2.5 mil on a DC or cheap again?

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    Hutzler wasnt hired to save money
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    I hope we stay away from the Rocky Long tree. Coaches in that tree are too reliant on blitzing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDawg81 View Post
    I guess my question is How much as we will willing to go on a DC? Are we willing to spend 1.5 to 2.5 mil on a DC or cheap again?
    I have heard we have between 2-2.5 to hire a DC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDawg81 View Post
    I guess my question is How much as we will willing to go on a DC? Are we willing to spend 1.5 to 2.5 mil on a DC or cheap again?
    I do know we have a commitment on funding staff, if moves are made.

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    Just throwing another name out there. No rumor, but the Tennessee Titans will likely have an entire new coaching staff after the season. Tracy Rocker is their current DL coach, and he was Will Muschamp's DL coach at South Carolina. He's got a long history in SEC football. If you can get Muschamp, it might be possible to get Rocker to coach the DL. I'm sure Jeff Simmons would be talking up Mississippi State to Rocker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KB21 View Post
    I hope we stay away from the Rocky Long tree. Coaches in that tree are too reliant on blitzing.
    I just don't want to see another 3 man front.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt3467 View Post
    I just don't want to see another 3 man front.
    Well, you are probably out of luck, because almost every DC in both NFL and college bases out of an odd front with 5 DBs. Particularly in college, you don't see teams run a true 4 man front any longer because it's too hard to defend spread teams with a 4 man front. You see some teams use a 2 man front with two stand up ends or some hybrid front where you have three down with one stand up edge that can play both on the ball and off the ball. You rarely see anyone who puts four down across the front any longer. It's the modern approach to defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KB21 View Post
    Just throwing another name out there. No rumor, but the Tennessee Titans will likely have an entire new coaching staff after the season. Tracy Rocker is their current DL coach, and he was Will Muschamp's DL coach at South Carolina. He's got a long history in SEC football. If you can get Muschamp, it might be possible to get Rocker to coach the DL. I'm sure Jeff Simmons would be talking up Mississippi State to Rocker.
    The DL role is already rumored to be filled. The consistent rumor I have heard, for the last two months, is that Pernell McPhee was going to be the new DL coach. He's not your typical "oh he's a former player so we're hiring him" hire. He's been with Wink Martindale at Michigan(who was his DC in Baltimore) the last 3 years, two being in a coaching type role. He's with the OLBs this year but was with the DL last year. He has a lot of support from Fletcher Cox and some former players to get the job. Rumored that Fletcher would kick in some serious change to revamp the DL if Pernell was to be the hire. Not saying he won't do that anyways, which I believe he is going to, but he'd be all the more motivated to kick in even more if Pernell was heading that unit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    The DL role is already rumored to be filled. The consistent rumor I have heard, for the last two months, is that Pernell McPhee was going to be the new DL coach. He's not your typical "oh he's a former player so we're hiring him" hire. He's been with Wink Martindale at Michigan(who was his DC in Baltimore) the last 3 years, two being in a coaching type role. He's with the OLBs this year but was with the DL last year. He has a lot of support from Fletcher Cox and some former players to get the job. Rumored that Fletcher would kick in some serious change to revamp the DL if Pernell was to be the hire. Not saying he won't do that anyways, which I believe he is going to, but he'd be all the more motivated to kick in even more if Pernell was heading that unit.
    Nice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    The DL role is already rumored to be filled. The consistent rumor I have heard, for the last two months, is that Pernell McPhee was going to be the new DL coach. He's not your typical "oh he's a former player so we're hiring him" hire. He's been with Wink Martindale at Michigan(who was his DC in Baltimore) the last 3 years, two being in a coaching type role. He's with the OLBs this year but was with the DL last year. He has a lot of support from Fletcher Cox and some former players to get the job. Rumored that Fletcher would kick in some serious change to revamp the DL if Pernell was to be the hire. Not saying he won't do that anyways, which I believe he is going to, but he'd be all the more motivated to kick in even more if Pernell was heading that unit.
    Good info, not sure if it will come true but it's something to chew on at least.

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    There seems to be some consensus that we're going to make more staff moves than originally thought. The original thought had been that we'd make 4: Turner, Bell, Hutzler, and Odom. I also think there's a high possibility that Holocek is kind of in the wrong place at the wrong time and may get fired as well to make room for an OC/QB coach. I think Tucker is safe and I feel like Bumphis is safe. I don't think you fire Loadholt after less than a year on the job so that just leaves Jon Cooper.

    I also know we are completely revamping the scouting and off field depts so that could be more of what is meant than on field staffers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt3467 View Post
    I just don't want to see another 3 man front.
    best front to use vs Spread teams but you must have a legit Nose to be good at it
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