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    Mississippi State has a great opportunity

    When kiffin leaves tomorrow, we once again have a great opportunity to take advantage of a situation and get our program headed in the right direction. Do we have the Leadership in place to seize the opportunity??? I'm not so sure we do. If we had Leach, or had hired a competent HC when he died, we could really take over the state and make some noise. (not saying Lebby is incompetent. That remains to be seen)

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    I agree 100%! But like you said we have work to do.

    Need to get the staff right on defense, ST, and in the scouting dept and with the recruiting staff.

    And after that we need to hit the portal hard and get OUR players back in some instances while at the same time adding veteran talent.

    We CAN do this!

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    Yep a golden opportunity delivered to us by LK himself. Our leadership needs to be bustin *** right now.

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    I feel like OM will up their NIL even more this season to stay relevant. We need them to blow this hire badly

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    I feel like OM will up their NIL even more this season to stay relevant. We need them to blow this hire badly
    Who the heck is gonna want to take that train wreck??!??

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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton View Post
    Who the heck is gonna want to take that train wreck??!??
    Golesh is my guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    I feel like OM will up their NIL even more this season to stay relevant. We need them to blow this hire badly
    There isn't a hire to be made that gets them to the level LK has

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    Quote Originally Posted by DownwardDawg View Post
    When kiffin leaves tomorrow, we once again have a great opportunity to take advantage of a situation and get our program headed in the right direction. Do we have the Leadership in place to seize the opportunity??? I'm not so sure we do. If we had Leach, or had hired a competent HC when he died, we could really take over the state and make some noise. (not saying Lebby is incompetent. That remains to be seen)
    We have been in this same situation countless times and 17ed it up every time. I do think we have an administration that has a plan, it seems that our people are willing to fund this thing to get us out of the gutter this time around. I’m going to be controversial here, I don’t think Mike Leach would be the guy for anyone in this situation. His recruiting was not where it needed to be for us to keep up in this era of spend or die, we were falling behind especially in the defensive side of the ball fast and it showed quickly after he was gone. His concepts changed the game he was a visionary and I am glad he coached us, I wish it would have been 15 year earlier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chef dixon View Post
    There isn't a hire to be made that gets them to the level LK has
    I doubt it too, but this is a discussion of us vs them, right? There's plenty of coaches they can get that are better than Lebby

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    Quote Originally Posted by chef dixon View Post
    There isn't a hire to be made that gets them to the level LK has
    What he did for them was to push them to put the machine together to make that success possible. That isn’t going to go away with that staff dissolving it’s still in place and the next staff will have every opportunity for success. That said it’s a double edged sword, next guys not winning 10 a year and he’s not getting it done in the fanboys eyes.

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    Realistically the best thing that can happen for us is lane is serious about taking OM's staff now or never. Hopefully this forces OM to make one of the cood's the HC just to keep the staff together, so they can get in the playoffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Golesh is my guess
    Sumrall isn't out of the picture yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pancho View Post
    Sumrall isn't out of the picture yet.
    There was some stuff leaked last night from a Florida booster that said Sumrall has already signed the dotted line to coach Florida. Supposedly gonna be announced today. Apparently Auburn came in hard for Sumrall and Florida made a pretty lucrative offer.

    Also states Sumrall wanted the OM job but had to hurry and make a decision. If all this turns out to be true, OM can thank Kiffin for missing Sumrall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coursesuper View Post
    We have been in this same situation countless times and 17ed it up every time. I do think we have an administration that has a plan, it seems that our people are willing to fund this thing to get us out of the gutter this time around. I’m going to be controversial here, I don’t think Mike Leach would be the guy for anyone in this situation. His recruiting was not where it needed to be for us to keep up in this era of spend or die, we were falling behind especially in the defensive side of the ball fast and it showed quickly after he was gone. His concepts changed the game he was a visionary and I am glad he coached us, I wish it would have been 15 year earlier.
    I totally agree! We have had many times to take over a messed up situation at the fake plantation owners. And in recent times we have failed miserably. Ie; the NCAA prohibition period with Matt Luke as their head coach. I hope I am wrong! But this situation of Lane and his ego is pure gold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coursesuper View Post
    What he did for them was to push them to put the machine together to make that success possible. That isn’t going to go away with that staff dissolving it’s still in place and the next staff will have every opportunity for success. That said it’s a double edged sword, next guys not winning 10 a year and he’s not getting it done in the fanboys eyes.
    Even with NIL they're going to miss Lane's ability to evaluate the portal and his play calling ability. I just don't see how they replace that easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Realistically the best thing that can happen for us is lane is serious about taking OM's staff now or never. Hopefully this forces OM to make one of the cood's the HC just to keep the staff together, so they can get in the playoffs.
    He's taking them anyway. And their scouting dept.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    Even with NIL they're going to miss Lane's ability to evaluate the portal and his play calling ability. I just don't see how they replace that easily.
    It’s never easy, but they have half the equation done. The framework is in place the next guy doesn’t have to build it, he just has to make it work. Making it work is the trick now isn’t it?

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    We missed a huge opportunity going to #1 and not capitalizing on it.

    We better not waste this opportunity too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapGame View Post
    We missed a huge opportunity going to #1 and not capitalizing on it.

    We better not waste this opportunity too.
    Oh did we choke on that one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    He's taking them anyway. And their scouting dept.
    That scouting department seems to be pretty good, based on their portal gems.

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