Where Things Stand Currently

[Cowbell]

Keith Carter gave KIFFIN a time frame and said “by this date.” You think we aren’t telling Lebby who to hire?

Keith Carter did no such thing.

[DownwardDawg]

According to SECrant as of last year. There is a photo of Heb in a Lowe's uniform working. If that is true kinda crazy.

Oh yeah. That's been known a while. He's a happy Lowe's employee and that's awesome for him. I bet Mullen could get him back!!! Haha

[confucius say]

Anyone hearing anything about Will Muschamp as the DC?

And no, Bo Bounds isn't my source.

I'd rather hire Ron Roberts

[confucius say]

I would be surprised if we announced any changes before signing day December 3

[1eyedog]

Yeah. Those Egg Bowl losses in 2014-2015 were great.**

especially 14....geeeeze

[Brobi-wan]

I would be surprised if we announced any changes before signing day December 3

Yeah, we really want to keep this 45th ranked class together***

[Todd4State]

I'd rather hire Ron Roberts

I think Roberts would be very good for us honestly. He has head coaching experience too at Delta State and SELU. And honestly, if things go a certain way at Ole Miss I'd try for Pete Golding.

[Bothrops]

Yeah, we really want to keep this 45th ranked class together***

Haha

[maroonmania]

If Lebby wants to change DCs and is asking them to pay for the guy he wants, then fine. But if Lebby wants to keep Hutzler, then he should be able to do that. It's just that Lebby and Hutz will both suffer the consequences if he can't cut it next year.

I don't like the idea of boosters forcing a coach to do it their way. Pick the coach and let him do it how he wants to.

If Hutzler is back Lebby is going to lose a lot of financial support including mine. A totally green DC should have never been hired to begin with to go along with a totally green HC. Would have been MUCH better off hiring a successful G5 DC from somewhere. He is probably getting better and was provided significant help this year with analysts but he should have never gotten the job to begin with. And beyond his coaching the biggest issue is that he is unable to attract any real difference makers out of the portal or get any big time defensive recruits out of HS. Lockhart from Tupelo is the only good defensive recruit I can think of we've gotten while he has been here but one isn't going to cut it. Our staff in general just isn't on par with even the mid-level SEC teams. We had good enough players to have won at least 7 games this season.

[Really Clark?]

If Hutzler is back Lebby is going to lose a lot of financial support including mine. A totally green DC should have never been hired to begin with to go along with a totally green HC. Would have been MUCH better off hiring a successful G5 DC from somewhere. He is probably getting better and was provided significant help this year with analysts but he should have never gotten the job to begin with. And beyond his coaching the biggest issue is that he is unable to attract any real difference makers out of the portal or get any big time defensive recruits out of HS. Lockhart from Tupelo is the only good defensive recruit I can think of we've gotten while he has been here but one isn't going to cut it. Our staff in general just isn't on par with even the mid-level SEC teams. We had good enough players to have won at least 7 games this season.

I kinda disagree, he did get a difference maker from the portal. He just happen to be lost for the year in Game 2. We needed depth and difference makers. We got some depth and 1 real difference maker. Who would have made the entire line more explosive. Did we need more? Absolutely but most of that was a function of our NIL budget.

[maroonmania]

I kinda disagree, he did get a difference maker from the portal. He just happen to be lost for the year in Game 2. We needed depth and difference makers. We got some depth and 1 real difference maker. Who would have made the entire line more explosive. Did we need more? Absolutely but most of that was a function of our NIL budget.

Whitson was hurt most of the year before at Coastal. Good player but came to us with an injury history. Problem is with Hutzler, we have to pay above market value because he has no track record. I mean I guess we can just continually blame all our woes on the NIL budget and not hold coaches accountable and be the loveable losers of the SEC. I mean our NIL budget was significantly increased last year. Seriously, make excuses all you want for Hutzler but he couldn't have gotten a DC job anywhere else in the SEC and that's just a fact. I was shocked and disappointed when Lebby hired him. Coaching at Alabama where players flow in by the truckload is not the same as coaching at State and is really not the same as coaching at most places.

[CaptainObvious]

Soooooo??where do things stand currently?

[Really Clark?]

Whitson was hurt most of the year before at Coastal. Good player but came to us with an injury history. Problem is with Hutzler, we have to pay above market value because he has no track record. I mean I guess we can just continually blame all our woes on the NIL budget and not hold coaches accountable and be the loveable losers of the SEC. I mean our NIL budget was significantly increased last year. Seriously, make excuses all you want for Hutzler but he couldn't have gotten a DC job anywhere else in the SEC and that's just a fact. I was shocked and disappointed when Lebby hired him. Coaching at Alabama where players flow in by the truckload is not the same as coaching at State and is really not the same as coaching at most places.

Our budget was increased, still was the bottom third of the league and it showed as the season went on. Lack of SEC depth showed its self. A couple of injuries significantly impacted the team. Look I'm more than fine bringing in another DC. Heck I questioned pairing a rookie HC with a rookie DC when we hired him. Just I'm not going to say he didn't bring in some players and I'm not going to be naive and say another DC would have done much more with our budget. Especially on the DL where we had the biggest issue.

[KB21]

If Jeff wants to give up play calling and bring in Briles, then OK. However, there is no reason to force Jeff to give up play calling. His play calling isn?t even remotely an issue.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Soooooo??where do things stand currently?

Nothing has really changed in the last 14 hours. I was told last night that Selmon and Lebby met for a couple of hours after the game to go over things and will meet again either today or tomorrow to further discuss the plan moving forward.

There is a group of boosters that believe they can get Mullen. I do not believe that to be true based on someone talked to last night in regards to Dan. But that is where I was getting my comment about, “I would not be floored if we moved off Lebby.” Because if we do it, then we have an agreement with Dan.

Now do I think that will happen, no. I have pretty good sourcing when it comes to Dan and I do not see him moving until Cannon graduates. There may be a world where he could play at a prep school for a year or two, I know this was discussed when he was at Lake Oconee. I know a lot of people have pointed to the money thing at UNLV, but if they truly were in a bind they could get him paid. They would probably have to call Lorenzo or Frank Fertitta but that would get it done in about 10 seconds.

[StarkVegasSteve]

If Jeff wants to give up play calling and bring in Briles, then OK. However, there is no reason to force Jeff to give up play calling. His play calling isn?t even remotely an issue.

His play calling is not the issue. You are correct. The problem is, and it has even become evident to him, is that he still is operating like an OC. He is missing stuff in prep and in game that is costing us games.

[Maverick91]

Oh yeah. That's been known a while. He's a happy Lowe's employee and that's awesome for him. I bet Mullen could get him back!!! Haha

Honestly happy for him. He had good money for awhile and now just gets to clock in. The dream

[TrapGame]

His play calling is not the issue. You are correct. The problem is, and it has even become evident to him, is that he still is operating like an OC. He is missing stuff in prep and in game that is costing us games.

If Lebby has realized it then that's a good thing. He certainly isn't as hardheaded as some are making him out to be.

[KB21]

His play calling is not the issue. You are correct. The problem is, and it has even become evident to him, is that he still is operating like an OC. He is missing stuff in prep and in game that is costing us games.

I was told last night that we have a big offer on the table for an established defensive coordinator. I?m still in I will see it to believe it stage in this, but this was told to me by the same guy that told me BOC was getting the baseball job well before it ever happened.

[StarkVegasSteve]

If Lebby has realized it then that's a good thing. He certainly isn't as hardheaded as some are making him out to be.

I will hold my judgement in that regard to see what he does in regards to staff changes.