Let Lebby build

[CaptainObvious]

No.

[Quaoarsking]

It's the same thing every week: Lebby coaches a terrible game on Saturday. On Sunday there is near unanimous agreement that he's still a bad coach who will eventually be fired.

Then by midweek, people delude themselves back into "well maybe all of his red flags are good things and actually no other coach would even get us close enough to have his coaching cost us the games, so actually it's not really his fault at all!"

Lather, rinse, repeat. Believe me, I'm as desperate to root for a good football program as much as anyone else, but being in denial about our terrible coach who could have 7, 8, or 9 wins but instead just has 5 does no favors to anyone.

Arnett or Moorhead could have coached this team to 5-7. We need someone who can outperform them.

[gtowndawg]

It's the same thing every week: Lebby coaches a terrible game on Saturday. On Sunday there is near unanimous agreement that he's still a bad coach who will eventually be fired.

Then by midweek, people delude themselves back into "well maybe all of his red flags are good things and actually no other coach would even get us close enough to have his coaching cost us the games, so actually it's not really his fault at all!"

Lather, rinse, repeat. Believe me, I'm as desperate to root for a good football program as much as anyone else, but being in denial about our terrible coach who could have 7, 8, or 9 wins but instead just has 5 does no favors to anyone.

Arnett or Moorhead could have coached this team to 5-7. We need someone who can outperform them.

Yeah, this board is almost Genespage at this point. I feel like SixPack reflects the fanbase's feelings better. Lebby is awful, everyone knows it whether they can bring themselves to admit it or not.

[Brobi-wan]

Lebby is not a good coach yet. You guys are on meth if you think Arnett or Moorhead would have the same record as Lebby this year though. Moorehead might have beaten Arkansas. Arnett would have lost to ASU and Arkansas.

[Doggie_Style]

Yeah, this board is almost Genespage at this point. I feel like SixPack reflects the fanbase's feelings better. Lebby is awful, everyone knows it whether they can bring themselves to admit it or not.

I think most of the fanbase has just capitulated at this point. Yes Lebby ain't it but what are our chances of bringing in anyone better given the current Administration / leadership situation? This admin has made so many bad decisions in both athletics and academics that any sense of confidence is long gone.

[BB30]

Lebbys offenses have averaged more ppg in his first two years than all but three years Mullen was here and some of them were later on in ******* tenure with a much more talented roster...

Offense isn't the problem, defense isn't the problem, coaching decisions aren't the problem. Money is the problem. We don't have the talent to bail us out of poor coaching decisions like others in our conference do. We have to play and coach perfect. Lane can have a c+ coaching game and get bailed out by the talent on the roster now. Same with the other playoff contenders. Coaches are going to make bone headed decisions some every game, goes back to jimmys and joes beat x's and o's.

[Quaoarsking]

Lebby is not a good coach yet. You guys are on meth if you think Arnett or Moorhead would have the same record as Lebby this year though. Moorehead might have beaten Arkansas. Arnett would have lost to ASU and Arkansas.

Arnett beat a similar quality Arkansas on the road as HC, and also won a home close game with Arizona, who was similar or a little better than this year's Arizona.

Moorhead also beat Arkansas in the year ye got fired (so did Croom, incidentally) as well as 2 other P5 home games.

[Doggie_Style]

Arnett beat a similar quality Arkansas on the road as HC, and also won a home close game with Arizona, who was similar or a little better than this year's Arizona.

Moorhead also beat Arkansas in the year ye got fired (so did Croom, incidentally) as well as 2 other P5 home games.

Yup.....Croom, Moorhead, Arnett and Lebby ..... all block-heads and all bad hires

[Brobi-wan]

Arnett beat a similar quality Arkansas on the road as HC, and also won a home close game with Arizona, who was similar or a little better than this year's Arizona.

Moorhead also beat Arkansas in the year ye got fired (so did Croom, incidentally) as well as 2 other P5 home games.

Nobody on Lebby’s team is giving the starting QB skull fractures.

[Quaoarsking]

Nobody on Lebby?s team is giving the starting QB skull fractures.

Sure, but we were discussing on the field results, and so far Lebby hasn't done anything that Arnett and Moorhead couldn't do.

Speaking of, is it weird to anyone else how much we as a university praise Willie Gay after that incident? The official accounts post things about him, and we even honored him on the field earlier this season.

[Brobi-wan]

Sure, but we were discussing on the field results, and so far Lebby hasn't done anything that Arnett and Moorhead couldn't do.

Speaking of, is it weird to anyone else how much we as a university praise Willie Gay after that incident? The official accounts post things about him, and we even honored him on the field earlier this season.

I understand your line of thought. I just don’t agree with the point. Moorehead and Arnett did that standing on the shoulders of Mullen and Leach.

Fitz was a top 5 All time QB for us and Will was Will. Honestly a lot like Blake. Lebby is taking over the mess created by Arnett and playing catch up on NIL within our base. I’m not saying Lebby is a good coach. I think he will be. He may never be a good coach here though. Your statement is a bit like when your sibling breaks yours mom’s lamp and hands you the bat he did it with. It’s not really what happened or fair.

That being said, I’m not satisfied with this year. But to each their own. I also think Willie Gay is not someone we should promote, but from what I heard of the incident and the climate in which it happened, pretty sure we wouldn’t demonize him. We probably should just not acknowledge him at all tbh

[AROB44]

I understand your line of thought. I just don?t agree with the point. Moorehead and Arnett did that standing on the shoulders of Mullen and Leach.

Fitz was a top 5 All time QB for us and Will was Will. Honestly a lot like Blake. Lebby is taking over the mess created by Arnett and playing catch up on NIL within our base. I?m not saying Lebby is a good coach. I think he will be. He may never be a good coach here though. Your statement is a bit like when your sibling breaks yours mom?s lamp and hands you the bat he did it with. It?s not really what happened or fair.

That being said, I?m not satisfied with this year. But to each their own. I also think Willie Gay is not someone we should promote, but from what I heard of the incident and the climate in which it happened, pretty sure we wouldn?t demonize him. We probably should just not acknowledge him at all tbh

Agree totally!

[Maverick91]

Lebbys offenses have averaged more ppg in his first two years than all but three years Mullen was here and some of them were later on in ******* tenure with a much more talented roster...

Offense isn't the problem, defense isn't the problem, coaching decisions aren't the problem. Money is the problem. We don't have the talent to bail us out of poor coaching decisions like others in our conference do. We have to play and coach perfect. Lane can have a c+ coaching game and get bailed out by the talent on the roster now. Same with the other playoff contenders. Coaches are going to make bone headed decisions some every game, goes back to jimmys and joes beat x's and o's.

I disagree. Coaching errors alone lost us the Texas and Florida games. You can't kick argue coaching errors at least made Mizzu look a lot worse than it was if not lost us that game.

[dawgman15]

Lebby is not a good coach yet. You guys are on meth if you think Arnett or Moorhead would have the same record as Lebby this year though. Moorehead might have beaten Arkansas. Arnett would have lost to ASU and Arkansas.

Arnett beat an Arkansas team on the road that didn?t have an interim head coach. We?re fine with firing a first time HC previous coordinator midway through a season but God forbid we get rid of a coach who went 2-10 is first season with a blowout loss at home to Toledo. Arnett was bad so is Lebby they don?t have to be mutually exclusive

[Quaoarsking]

Assuming we end up losing the Egg Bowl, there isn't much difference at all in this season and 2023.

And honestly not a huge difference between 2025 and 2024 either. Biggest change is that 7 of our 9 P5 opponents got worse, some of them significantly worse like Florida and Arkansas, and we failed to capitalize. Well, that and at least Lebby did get absolutely humiliated by a MAC team this time.

[Cowbeller]

Yeah, this board is almost Genespage at this point. I feel like SixPack reflects the fanbase's feelings better. Lebby is awful, everyone knows it whether they can bring themselves to admit it or not.

It is a damn good thing the fanbase doesnt make the decisions

[AROB44]

It is a damn good thing the fanbase doesnt make the decisions

Absolutly! We would be firing a coach every year and talking about how we deserve better.

[Brobi-wan]

Absolutly! We would be firing a coach every year and talking about how we deserve better.

Welfare mentality for the welfare program

[tcdog70]

19 days later.... the real issue is our OL and DL. Not the coach. Although, he has made some dumbass decisions but those are probably because he knows our OL and DL are going to fail.

I'll agree we need to be better on both lines. the issue is the Coach is a dumb ass--90% of D1 Coaches would not have lost the Texas game-or the Fla Game for sure. When you know you are weak on the lines of scrimmage you have to Coach accordingly. Just run Fluff and kick the FG -and then we going bowling. after That pass Shapen should have been bench bound.

[Brobi-wan]

I'll agree we need to be better on both lines. the issue is the Coach is a dumb ass--90% of D1 Coaches would not have lost the Texas game-or the Fla Game for sure. When you know you are weak on the lines of scrimmage you have to Coach accordingly. Just run Fluff and kick the FG -and then we going bowling. after That pass Shapen should have been bench bound.

Your assumption that 90% of coaches would have been in that same spot isn’t really fair though. The Florida game was unacceptable. The defense collapsed on the Texas game. Lebby should have slowed the offense down in the 4th quarter, but the Texas D is legit and we scored at will on them for 3 quarters.