Malzahn

[Quaoarsking]

Dude, read what I said about him departing his last two. You argue like a girl. I never said he can’t Coach. Read slower and post less about coaching.

So we all agree that Huff is a pretty good coach who would be an improvement over what we have, but might leave us like Mullen did if he wins here and gets a bigger job offer. I'll take that.

[msstate7]

Dude, read what I said about him departing his last two. You argue like a girl. I never said he can’t Coach. Read slower and post less about coaching.

Huff left bc they didn't give him what he wanted in either money or buy out. He left, and the players thought so much of him, they went with him. If I don't get what I want from my employer, I'd go too.

[DownwardDawg]

Malzahn would do great here.

[DownwardDawg]

I thought this was a thread about Malzahn. Damn yall!!!

[Pancho]

I thought Gus's O was washed up.

[Maverick91]

Gus does not want to be a HC anymore. He is done with it. Has told a bunch of people that. His wife also has no desire to live in Starkville.

Also his offense is old and out of date. And we gotta stop getting these offenses that are predicated of having an elite specific position.

[TrapGame]

Also his offense is old and out of date. And we gotta stop getting these offenses that are predicated of having an elite specific position.

Anybody wanting Malzahn is an idiot. He was fired from Auburn who has significant more resources than we do. He was going to get fired at UCF but bowed out to take the FSU OC job. It?s a mediocre offense.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Anybody wanting Malzahn is an idiot. He was fired from Auburn who has significant more resources than we do. He was going to get fired at UCF but bowed out to take the FSU OC job. It?s a mediocre offense.

Some people get names in their head once upon a time and they never let them go. Gus Malzahn would've been a great hire about 10 years ago. He would not be today. Everyone has caught up to that offense. It's not a novelty anymore. It's not an exception.

We had people wanting to hire Mark Stoops in 2017 and 2020. He would've been a great hire in 17 and would've been ok in 20. We'd have a revolt if we hired Mark Stoops tomorrow but there will be people that bring up his name.

[Homedawg]

So we all agree that Huff is a pretty good coach who would be an improvement over what we have, but might leave us like Mullen did if he wins here and gets a bigger job offer. I'll take that.

No we don't all agree....

[Coursesuper]

No we don't all agree....

No kidding.

[DownwardDawg]

No we don't all agree....

I'm with you. I think that's a very meh high risk hire. I haven't seen enough from him to make me think he'd be a good hire.

[msstate7]

Huff may or may not be good, but he has done a better job at Usm than Lebby has here. The turnaround at Usm is impressive.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Huff may or may not be good, but he has done a better job at Usm than Lebby has here. The turnaround at Usm is impressive.

He brought the best players from his team that won THE SAME CONFERENCE THEY ARE IN NOW to USM with him. I would be concerned if he did not do better than Lebby. But hell, we played bad and beat them by 17, and it could have been worse.

Now does that mean Huff is bad coach, no. I think he is a fine coach. I do not think he is great and I do not think he is terrible. He is in the perfect spot for him. I do not think he would do well at the P4 level.

[DownwardDawg]

Huff may or may not be good, but he has done a better job at Usm than Lebby has here. The turnaround at Usm is impressive.

I'd like to add that I do agree with you on one thing regarding Huff. I don't care that he's beating sunbelt teams ( or whatever conference they are in).
It's apples to apples. He has the same talent that those teams have. If he wins in the SEC, he would have SEC players playing against other SEC players.
It's like saying Chris Peterson did great at Boise, but he didn't play anyone. Well he did great at Washington too. He would have done great at Bama.

I've never understood that argument.

But still, I'm not interested in Huff at all. I haven't seen enough.

[Maroon Glasses]

I'd like to add that I do agree with you on one thing regarding Huff. I don't care that he's beating sunbelt teams ( or whatever conference they are in).
It's apples to apples. He has the same talent that those teams have. If he wins in the SEC, he would have SEC players playing against other SEC players.
It's like saying Chris Peterson did great at Boise, but he didn't play anyone. Well he did great at Washington too. He would have done great at Bama.

I've never understood that argument.

But still, I'm not interested in Huff at all. I haven't seen enough.

Yes. I'm not saying we should hire Huff but I agree with what you're saying. Huff has turned USM around in year 1. Altho he did bring his previous team with him but that's what the portal can do for you.

[msstate7]

He brought the best players from his team that won THE SAME CONFERENCE THEY ARE IN NOW to USM with him. I would be concerned if he did not do better than Lebby. But hell, we played bad and beat them by 17, and it could have been worse.

Now does that mean Huff is bad coach, no. I think he is a fine coach. I do not think he is great and I do not think he is terrible. He is in the perfect spot for him. I do not think he would do well at the P4 level.

As I said earlier in this thread, the fact the players followed him says a lot about Huff. Also, as I said earlier in this thread, he would be like 5th or so on my list. I just totally reject he's garbage; nothing supports this.

I don't think Lebby is gonna be fired, so I haven't really dug into candidates. If I were in charge though, this is what I would look for...

1. HC experience. Don't care what level, but actual experience running a program.

2. A guy that isn't at a normal winner, but had success at a place most fail.

3. Innovative offense.

These are the 3 things I wanna look for in that order.

[HoopsDawg]

Charles huff?? Yall can't be serious. Damn why dd I even come to look at this board. Holy shit

Haha, same.

[StarkVegasSteve]

As I said earlier in this thread, the fact the players followed him says a lot about Huff. Also, as I said earlier in this thread, he would be like 5th or so on my list. I just totally reject he's garbage; nothing supports this.

I don't think Lebby is gonna be fired, so I haven't really dug into candidates. If I were in charge though, this is what I would look for...

1. HC experience. Don't care what level, but actual experience running a program.

2. A guy that isn't at a normal winner, but had success at a place most fail.

3. Innovative offense.

These are the 3 things I wanna look for in that order.

That's not bad criteria. I think number 2 is probably where you're going to run into issues because you are taking a chance on someone that may have just caught lightning in a bottle somewhere, ala Turner Gill at Buffalo, Jamey Chadwell at Coastal, or Scott Frost at UCF. But I think WERE WE TO BE LOOKING, and like you said we are not, I think that's pretty good criteria. I would be interested what you would consider innovative offense.

[msstate7]

That's not bad criteria. I think number 2 is probably where you're going to run into issues because you are taking a chance on someone that may have just caught lightning in a bottle somewhere, ala Turner Gill at Buffalo, Jamey Chadwell at Coastal, or Scott Frost at UCF. But I think WERE WE TO BE LOOKING, and like you said we are not, I think that's pretty good criteria. I would be interested what you would consider innovative offense.

I really don't know. Just something that most people aren't doing. I hated leach's offense, but he checked all 3 of my boxes.

[Activated Alpha]

Now I will say that when we do have another national coaching search, whether it is next year or years down the road, we have to stop hiring up and coming offensive coordinators who do not have any HC experience. I would much rather have a G5 HC than a coordinator with 0 experience