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    Gus bus would take it tomorrow. And he is not perfect by any stretch. But we beat Tennessee Texas and Florida with him

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    And yet we have fans that want him back.
    Lot of low IQ takes come out after a loss

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEDawg View Post
    Lot of low IQ takes come out after a loss
    This is better, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    And yet we have fans that want him back.
    Hell yeah. Only an idiot would prefer Lebby over Mullen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    I would take John Hevesy back in a heartbeat. Immense A hole but damn he could coach a line.
    Yep

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    All I know is that Mullen would have the right quarterback running the football... no way should Shapen run a designed quarterback running play in which he did quite often last night. Having said that, I still wouldn't want Mullen back. I do however think that Malzhan would be a good fit
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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB**** View Post
    Gus bus would take it tomorrow. And he is not perfect by any stretch. But we beat Tennessee Texas and Florida with him
    I've said for years I think Malzahn is a great, maybe even perfect, fit for us. His offense is perfect for the talent we're historically able to attract. Hires good DCs. Runs his program well.

    KT would be a beast in a Malzahn offense. Cam Newton 2.0.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FISHDAWG View Post
    All I know is that Mullen would have the right quarterback running the football... no way should Shapen run a designed quarterback running play in which he did quite often last night. Having said that, I still wouldn't want Mullen back. I do however think that Malzhan would be a good fit
    Damien Williams says hi. Also, Dan never had a schedule as difficult as our is this year. Since he rarely beat teams with better talent than us I would say our record would be about the same or worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    Damien Williams says hi. Also, Dan never had a schedule as difficult as our is this year. Since he rarely beat teams with better talent than us I would say our record would be about the same or worse.
    Damien Williams started 1 game in his career here - the 2013 Egg Bowl. We all know the story of Dak coming off the bench to win the game, but I wouldn't say that Dak not starting was coaching malpractice.

    The only other game where he got significant playing time was the 2016 against South Alabama, where Fitzgerald was benched after a poor start. You can argue that Mullen should have let Fitzgerald play longer, and I would probably agree, but it's not Williams had bad stats in that game or was responsible for the loss. Mullen went back to Fitzgerald for the rest of the season.

    It's fascinating how this phenomenon of "misremembering Dan Mullen as being worse than he actually was" has been so widespread here and on other boards among Lebby supporters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quaoarsking View Post
    Damien Williams started 1 game in his career here - the 2013 Egg Bowl. We all know the story of Dak coming off the bench to win the game, but I wouldn't say that Dak not starting was coaching malpractice.

    The only other game where he got significant playing time was the 2016 against South Alabama, where Fitzgerald was benched after a poor start. You can argue that Mullen should have let Fitzgerald play longer, and I would probably agree, but it's not Williams had bad stats in that game or was responsible for the loss. Mullen went back to Fitzgerald for the rest of the season.

    It's fascinating how this phenomenon of "misremembering Dan Mullen as being worse than he actually was" has been so widespread here and on other boards among Lebby supporters.
    The quote was that "Mullen would have had the right QB running the ball"...and yet that wasn't really always the case was it? And that's at the QB position. I could have pointed out how he started Holloway while gaslighting the media about Aeris Williams blocking which just magically got better after Holloway got injured in 2016. Among other examples. Like starting Chris Jones for one season. Starting Zach Jackson over JT Gray. I could go on.

    Has nothing to do with being a "Lebby supporter" at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quaoarsking View Post
    Damien Williams started 1 game in his career here - the 2013 Egg Bowl. We all know the story of Dak coming off the bench to win the game, but I wouldn't say that Dak not starting was coaching malpractice.

    The only other game where he got significant playing time was the 2016 against South Alabama, where Fitzgerald was benched after a poor start. You can argue that Mullen should have let Fitzgerald play longer, and I would probably agree, but it's not Williams had bad stats in that game or was responsible for the loss. Mullen went back to Fitzgerald for the rest of the season.

    It's fascinating how this phenomenon of "misremembering Dan Mullen as being worse than he actually was" has been so widespread here and on other boards among Lebby supporters.
    Dan Mullen against top 25 teams in 9 years: 7-33

    Dan was a good coach and I loved his time here and like Dan a lot as a person. But he beat the teams he was supposed to beat and never really punched above his weight. 3 of his 7 wins were in 4 weeks in 2014.

    And this is coming from someone who wanted to hire Dan in both 2023 and 2024. I would take Dan back, but understand what you are getting. 7-8 wins and nothing more. And the minute he has success, he will be trying to get a bigger job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quaoarsking View Post
    Damien Williams started 1 game in his career here - the 2013 Egg Bowl. We all know the story of Dak coming off the bench to win the game, but I wouldn't say that Dak not starting was coaching malpractice.

    The only other game where he got significant playing time was the 2016 against South Alabama, where Fitzgerald was benched after a poor start. You can argue that Mullen should have let Fitzgerald play longer, and I would probably agree, but it's not Williams had bad stats in that game or was responsible for the loss. Mullen went back to Fitzgerald for the rest of the season.

    It's fascinating how this phenomenon of "misremembering Dan Mullen as being worse than he actually was" has been so widespread here and on other boards among Lebby supporters.
    Basically we can't defend Lebby anymore, so let's act like Mullen wasn't good. Acting like mullen didn't lift our program is trash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    Dan Mullen against top 25 teams in 9 years: 7-33

    Dan was a good coach and I loved his time here and like Dan a lot as a person. But he beat the teams he was supposed to beat and never really punched above his weight. 3 of his 7 wins were in 4 weeks in 2014.
    3 sec wins sounds nice. We've had 2 in 3 years. Yeah, Mullen sucked

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    3 sec wins sounds nice. We've had 2 in 3 years. Yeah, Mullen sucked
    Where did I say he sucked in there? I was just pointing out the top 25 record. Just stating a fact. I actually did the opposite because I said I liked Dan when he was here and wanted to hire him back in 23 and 24

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    Dan Mullen against top 25 teams in 9 years: 7-33

    Dan was a good coach and I loved his time here and like Dan a lot as a person. But he beat the teams he was supposed to beat and never really punched above his weight. 3 of his 7 wins were in 4 weeks in 2014.

    And this is coming from someone who wanted to hire Dan in both 2023 and 2024. I would take Dan back, but understand what you are getting. 7-8 wins and nothing more. And the minute he has success, he will be trying to get a bigger job.
    I'd rather have a coach who mostly wins what he's supposed to than a coach who doesn't even do that. Dan Mullen wouldn't have gotten humiliated by Toledo, and he wouldn't have lost to 3-9 Florida this year either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEDawg View Post
    Lot of low IQ takes come out after a loss
    We?re in desperate times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Basically we can't defend Lebby anymore, so let's act like Mullen wasn't good. Acting like mullen didn't lift our program is trash.
    I've been bashing Dan long before we hired Lebby. Truth is he wasn't as successful as Sherrill. Jackie had 2014 type seasons in 1998 and 1999 along with some very memorable wins throughout the years sprinkled in. 1992 over Florida, 1994 over Tennessee, 2000 over Florida all come to mind. 1996 over Alabama too.

    Dan's typical season was four OOC wins, a win over an Auburn team that was down, a win over Arkansas and Kentucky, a decent win over Texas A&M and then an inexplicable loss to Ole Miss while he is trying to get a job at Miami.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgface View Post
    Hell yeah. Only an idiot would prefer Lebby over Mullen.
    I don't care if it's Lebby or not- we can do better than Dan with multiple coaches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quaoarsking View Post
    I'd rather have a coach who mostly wins what he's supposed to than a coach who doesn't even do that. Dan Mullen wouldn't have gotten humiliated by Toledo, and he wouldn't have lost to 3-9 Florida this year either.
    He also probably loses to Arizona State.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    He also probably loses to Arizona State.
    Doubt it. Arizona State would be a 7- or 8-win team in the SEC, and Mullen usually beat those at home.

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