Does anyone really think Lebby will still be our coach in 2027?

[Quaoarsking]

I wish I could say he won't be here in 2026, but all signs say he will.

But even half of the self-identified "Lebby supporters" have admitted here that they expect him to be fired after next season, when the schedule gets harder, the NIL support and talent get worse, and the stadium is emptier.

[Charlie_Sheen420]

I wish I could say he won't be here in 2026, but all signs say he will.

But even half of the self-identified "Lebby supporters" have admitted here that they expect him to be fired after next season, when the schedule gets harder, the NIL support and talent get worse, and the stadium is emptier.

We are losing at Minnesota next year book it because they actually have a coach that knows ball

[Todd4State]

I think 2026 will tell the tale about which way MSU goes. It's another opportunity to get players and improve. We'll see how much progress KT makes and I do think he will improve a lot.

Our schedule will be easier next season. Several teams will have new coaches.

He's either Jedd Fisch or he's just Felker/Croom as in the guy that brought some stability and handed the program off to Jackie/Dan or whoever.

[Coursesuper]

No idea, but this program is nuclear toxic. As is this alumni and fan base. No coach worth a 17 will touch it. We are a dead end, a place where coaches go to have their careers die. And if this trajectory continues MSU will get shuffled out during the next realignment. There will be no SEC or Big 10, it will be one big conference and our poor ass wont have a seat at the table.

[Quaoarsking]

No idea, but this program is nuclear toxic. As is this alumni and fan base. No coach worth a 17 will touch it. We are a dead end, a place where coaches go to have their careers die. And if this trajectory continues MSU will get shuffled out during the next realignment. There will be no SEC or Big 10, it will be one big conference and our poor ass wont have a seat at the table.

We can lean in to that. Jimbo Fisher would take our job tonight. I don't know if he's my #1 choice, but he would be a lot better than 5-6 with this current team.

[EdwardDrayton]

No idea, but this program is nuclear toxic. As is this alumni and fan base. No coach worth a 17 will touch it. We are a dead end, a place where coaches go to have their careers die. And if this trajectory continues MSU will get shuffled out during the next realignment. There will be no SEC or Big 10, it will be one big conference and our poor ass wont have a seat at the table.

Thank the Lord you're not leading this program with your toxic a$$. We will arise from the ashes and find a way to resurrect again.

[Quaoarsking]

Thank the Lord you're not leading this program with your toxic a$$. We will arise from the ashes and find a way to resurrect again.

One day we will. But it won't be next year because Lebby will still be underachieving for us.

[Charlie_Sheen420]

We can lean in to that. Jimbo Fisher would take our job tonight. I don't know if he's my #1 choice, but he would be a lot better than 5-6 with this current team.

Jimbo has 70 million reasons plus not to give a **** about State and if he was here he would be mailing it in like Belechik

[Maverick91]

No idea, but this program is nuclear toxic. As is this alumni and fan base. No coach worth a 17 will touch it. We are a dead end, a place where coaches go to have their careers die. And if this trajectory continues MSU will get shuffled out during the next realignment. There will be no SEC or Big 10, it will be one big conference and our poor ass wont have a seat at the table.

I disagree. Lebby has self inflicted wounded himself. No coach would look at what this year had and then what we ended up being and get mad at us for moving on. We snatched defeat from the soil of victory three times. And the. Stupid plays that has ZERO business being called.

[Todd4State]

No idea, but this program is nuclear toxic. As is this alumni and fan base. No coach worth a 17 will touch it. We are a dead end, a place where coaches go to have their careers die. And if this trajectory continues MSU will get shuffled out during the next realignment. There will be no SEC or Big 10, it will be one big conference and our poor ass wont have a seat at the table.

Going to take boosters that have skin in the game taking over the program to fix it like we did with baseball. I'm not talking about MSU boosters living in Reunion or Annandale.

I'm talking about Dak, Chris Jones, Fletcher Cox, etc.

[Quaoarsking]

Every time we think about firing a coach, our fans melt down and say that no coach would ever take our job.

Croom, Moorhead, Arnett, Lemonis. We made a big improvement on 3 of those 4, despite all the doomers. There are several million reasons why we can do it again.

[Quaoarsking]

Going to take boosters that have skin in the game taking over the program to fix it like we did with baseball. I'm not talking about MSU boosters living in Reunion or Annandale.

I'm talking about Dak, Chris Jones, Fletcher Cox, etc.

Hey I wonder if there's a coach out there that all 3 of them know and respect!

[Coursesuper]

We can lean in to that. Jimbo Fisher would take our job tonight. I don't know if he's my #1 choice, but he would be a lot better than 5-6 with this current team.

Just what we need a washed up charlatan. He literally ran away from a train wreck of his own making at FSU. He could not win with top level talent and all the resources in the world at A$M. WTF makes you think he can win here with less than a quarter of those here? Do you really believe that the current administration just mailed it in to hire the current staff? Do you really believe that we were not turned down by many? Do you know how and why Leach even ended up in Starkville? Sometimes I wonder about how yall operate in the world. Then I look up at this cluster17 and just shake my head.

[Quaoarsking]

Just what we need a washed up charlatan. He literally ran away from a train wreck of his own making at FSU. He could not win with top level talent and all the resources in the world at A$M. WTF makes you think he can win here with less than a quarter of those here? Do you really believe that the current administration just mailed it in to hire the current staff? Do you really believe that we were not turned down by many? Do you know how and why Leach even ended up in Starkville? Sometimes I wonder about how yall operate in the world. Then I look up at this cluster17 and just shake my head.

Fisher was 83-23 (48-16) at Florida State with 4 top 10 finishes and a national title. Despite his mental health breakdown at A&M, he still finished 45-25 (27-21). Whatever school hires him, he'll have to convince the AD that he's moved on from whatever was going on his last 2 years there.

He's not my #1 choice or even in my top 15 list, but he would have been better than 2-10 last year and better than 5-6 right now.

[Rejlector84sports]

I graduated in 1984 when Bellard was HC. In those 40 years (with one exception) the only success State has had is because of head coaches with experience at other schools (Bellard, Sherrill, and Leach [with the one exception being Mullen]). MSU has to quit thinking that just because you are a cooridator on some other team makes you qualified to run an SEC team. In today's environment a "head coach" is more of an adminstrator than a hands-on coach. And no longer is on-the-job training possible in the SEC. For State to compete you have to have someone who runs a whole ptogram. Because of financial constraints getting one of the "big guys" is not possible. You have to go with a head coach who has run a smaller program successful and let him build the same success he had at the lower level.

[Todd4State]

Fisher was 83-23 (48-16) at Florida State with 4 top 10 finishes and a national title. Despite his mental health breakdown at A&M, he still finished 45-25 (27-21). Whatever school hires him, he'll have to convince the AD that he's moved on from whatever was going on his last 2 years there.

He's not my #1 choice or even in my top 15 list, but he would have been better than 2-10 last year and better than 5-6 right now.

His "breakdown" was not having Jamies Winston at QB anymore.

[Coursesuper]

Going to take boosters that have skin in the game taking over the program to fix it like we did with baseball. I'm not talking about MSU boosters living in Reunion or Annandale.

I'm talking about Dak, Chris Jones, Fletcher Cox, etc.

Not even those guys all together have the kind of $$$ it takes for us to actually compete. We are talking north of 40 mil.

[Quaoarsking]

His "breakdown" was not having Jamies Winston at QB anymore.

He had 4 solid years in A&M, including 3 ranked finishes and once when they got screwed out of a playoff bid, before things went South for him there. And even when things went South, he was still 11-11 (6-9) in his last 2 years -- a lot better than Lebby would have been.

[Todd4State]

I graduated in 1984 when Bellard was HC. In those 40 years (with one exception) the only success State has had is because of head coaches with experience at other schools (Bellard, Sherrill, and Leach [with the one exception being Mullen]). MSU has to quit thinking that just because you are a cooridator on some other team makes you qualified to run an SEC team. In today's environment a "head coach" is more of an adminstrator than a hands-on coach. And no longer is on-the-job training possible in the SEC. For State to compete you have to have someone who runs a whole ptogram. Because of financial constraints getting one of the "big guys" is not possible. You have to go with a head coach who has run a smaller program successful and let him build the same success he had at the lower level.

Bingo! And I guarantee you that if Lebby doesn't work out that's what we're going to be getting/looking for.

To be honest, we've never really hired someone from a G5 school before with a profile like Sumrall, Golesh, Silverfield, etc. Leach is the closest coming from Wazzu and that worked out. Bellard was fired by A&M and Jackie left because he got them on probation.

[Cowbeller]

Have we considered the possibility that this roster is bad? I dont think Saban wins more than 7 this year, time will tell bc Lebby aint being fired