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    Quote Originally Posted by DawgFromOxford View Post
    Going to be a long season if this is the best we have
    Just like we weren't the team that beat Memphis by like 40 at memphis last year early, we aren't this bad either. I think we will be a bubble team by the end of the season. I have confidence in Jans

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    Quote Originally Posted by msugolf View Post
    We dont have a pg, dont have athletic wings that can shoot or create and dont have any quality bigs. Hubbard is not a pg or long enough to be a 2. Great talent but you have to surround him with good pieces. And Jans did not
    Our pg, who may or may not be good, didn't play tonight.

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    I do think the season is largely dependent on Epps.
    He avg'd 9.5 at Illinois as a freshman. Put up 18 as a sophomore at Georgetown, but that dropped to 13 last year. We need him around 12 this season

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Our pg, who may or may not be good, didn't play tonight.
    Yea and thats not a good sign, Jans seems to lose a player early every year. Im not saying Epps is gone but its odd that he didn't play

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    I do think the season is largely dependent on Epps.
    He avg'd 9.5 at Illinois as a freshman. Put up 18 as a sophomore at Georgetown, but that dropped to 13 last year. We need him around 12 this season
    I would not put your hopes in Epps. He isnt that good. Have to look past just the stat lines

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    Other than Hubbard we dont have a guy you can put the ball in his hands and tell him to go get a bucket. I was hoping Mcghee could be that for us

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    My son and I got to go to the UNA game with our friend. I knew when Jones Jr. came out as a starter that this team was in trouble. He is an energy and maybe even a sixth or seventh guy off the bench. He is by no means a SEC starter. We basically have Hubbard who can't help his height and is a liability on defense, and no established players who came back. This is Hubbard and the portal. Maybe Jans can make it work. It's just the second game but 25 or so turnovers is really concerning. Does anyone know why Epps didn't play?

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Just like we weren't the team that beat Memphis by like 40 at memphis last year early, we aren't this bad either. I think we will be a bubble team by the end of the season. I have confidence in Jans
    It?s season 4 for Jans and we?ve been a bubble team basically every year. I get it can be worse (I was a student during the Rick Ray years) but it?s frustrating to be in year 4 and feel like the needle isn?t continue to move forward.

    Chris Jans = Dan Mullen. Brought us out of being a SEC bottom dweller but couldn?t move past middle of the pack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    I do think the season is largely dependent on Epps.
    He avg'd 9.5 at Illinois as a freshman. Put up 18 as a sophomore at Georgetown, but that dropped to 13 last year. We need him around 12 this season
    Even if he plays and drops 15, we still lose by a lot. And maybe his point play helps with the turnovers but we still lose. Just have to scrub this one and hope this overall performance is a one off and we have a lot more to show. What's concerning is we saw some of the same issues from the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCMSTFAN View Post
    Other than Hubbard we dont have a guy you can put the ball in his hands and tell him to go get a bucket. I was hoping Mcghee could be that for us
    ^^^^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton View Post
    Even if he plays and drops 15, we still lose by a lot. And maybe his point play helps with the turnovers but we still lose. Just have to scrub this one and hope this overall performance is a one off and we have a lot more to show. What's concerning is we saw some of the same issues from the past.
    We aren't gonna be Iowa st good even if Epps turns out to be good. That's a good team. They'll be a 5-seed or better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DawgFromOxford View Post
    It?s season 4 for Jans and we?ve been a bubble team basically every year. I get it can be worse (I was a student during the Rick Ray years) but it?s frustrating to be in year 4 and feel like the needle isn?t continue to move forward.

    Chris Jans = Dan Mullen. Brought us out of being a SEC bottom dweller but couldn?t move past middle of the pack.
    Jans has had us in the tourney every season here. I would absolutely love to be better than that, but it's probably not realistic in our conference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    We aren't gonna be Iowa st good even if Epps turns out to be good. That's a good team. They'll be a 5-seed or better.
    OK but don't think it's too much to want a five seed from Jans in Year 4 of his tenure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCMSTFAN View Post
    Yea and thats not a good sign, Jans seems to lose a player early every year. Im not saying Epps is gone but its odd that he didn't play
    He only played 16 mins the other night despite starting. Him starting shows he isn't in the dog house. I think he's just banged up. Hopefully he's back Saturday

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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton View Post
    OK but don't think it's too much to want a five seed from Jans in Year 4 of his tenure.
    Of course I do. I just don't think we fund our program enough to be upper echelon of the sec.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    He only played 16 mins the other night despite starting. Him starting shows he isn't in the dog house. I think he's just banged up. Hopefully he's back Saturday
    Clary started too

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    People! People! Baseball starts in February.

    If you haven?t figured out by now that is our only hope for a successful program in the SEC, I just don?t know what to tell you.
    All you baseball haters need to get on board the train before it leaves the station!

    Just to warn you though. Not only does State play in the toughest conference in football and basketball, our teams also play in the toughest conference in Baseball where ?IT JUST MEANS MORE!?

    So when we start 2-7 in SEC games, don?t freak out. State will find a way to finish 14-16 and make a Regional!

    Hell State!
    Go Bulldogs!
    Yea!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton View Post
    OK but don't think it's too much to want a five seed from Jans in Year 4 of his tenure.
    Especially since we made a commitment to Jans in NIL that has put us in the top half of the conference

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Of course I do. I just don't think we fund our program enough to be upper echelon of the sec.
    Totally wrong on that one. He has plenty of NIL money available

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    My goals for our programs are the following...
    Football 6-8 wins
    MBK tourney team, but need a win in NCAA soon.
    Baseball CWS

    We only fund baseball at a level to really compete in the sec

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