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    It may not be possible but Ole miss losing this weekend, along with us winning at Mizzou will flip that crowd and momentum for the egg bowl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    Well he can throw the ball a lot more accurately than Kamario, he has yet to hit someone in the Gridiron Club with the football(or Lebby with the football on a swing pass), and he can run the offense to the fullest. Kamario can not. Also, Stevie Wondef can see fine, Stevie Wonder is the blind one.

    Some of y?all really need to stop getting so butthurt when people criticize Kamario. It is ok to say he has things he can work on. If he did not he would be starting. Pointing out flaws, while also highlighting what he does well, is not hating. Hating would be saying he is a no talent hack who is nothing more than a strong arm and a big body.
    I think of Jack on a broadcast I think in the egg bowl saying "beautiful pass.....it was 20 yards off the mark, but a beautiful pass"

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulldawg28 View Post
    KT has been clocked at a 4.4, that's in the 21mph range as well. It's also obvious when he takes off he has a gear not common for a Qb. Alsi, Reed being in his 2nd year means nothing. We see Shapen whose been in his 6th year of college football and STILL makes freshman mistakes every weekend. Also, why do you harp on his expectations and try to down them? Comparisons is apart of sports banter. Being compared to Cam Newton is a compliment that should be embraced not shunned. KT has obviously been a baller since probably 5 years old. Let him have BIG expectations and go for them. If you're already comparing his true freshman play to a former 5th year senior that's now a 2nd string NFL Qb that's pretty good and not the insult you're opting it to be.
    4.4? dang. He does seem to just leave everyone when he gets in stride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santiago View Post
    It may not be possible but Ole miss losing this weekend, along with us winning at Mizzou will flip that crowd and momentum for the egg bowl.
    Them losing to Florida would be a bigger upset than us beating them. I don't see it happening. It'd be incredible because they would come into the Egg Bowl tight but Florida is going to have to play out of their minds.

    Maybe our good buddy Billy G can pull one out of the hat for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santiago View Post
    It may not be possible but Ole miss losing this weekend, along with us winning at Mizzou will flip that crowd and momentum for the egg bowl.
    Florida just lost to Kentucky. They're cooked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcdog70 View Post
    KT went to several top rated passing camps this summer, he won every award they had. He was rated #1 passer in every camp.he can pass just fine,he just needs to play. When all is said and done He will be twice the QB Reed is.
    He was a 57% passer in HS. You gotta be realistic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEDawg View Post
    He was a 57% passer in HS. You gotta be realistic.
    he was throwing to HS players-some of them could not catch it in a basket. realistic--to me is when players like Tebow and Matt Wyatt say he is the best QB we have ever signed. Lebby says he is highly intelligent. i watched Him in Highschool he singlehanded beat Louisville ( they hadnot lost in 3 years). He was awesome then and He will be awesome going forward

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    Them losing to Florida would be a bigger upset than us beating them. I don't see it happening. It'd be incredible because they would come into the Egg Bowl tight but Florida is going to have to play out of their minds.

    Maybe our good buddy Billy G can pull one out of the hat for us.
    Many FL fans said the team quit against KY. Don't see much of a fight against OM on the road. Many of the their player$ may be looking for their next NIL deal or wanting this season to be over as who will be the next HC also hangs over the program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Reed is in his 2nd year as an SEC QB also- huge difference

    Reed has already thrown for 4K in his college career with 35 passing TD's. KT is talented- so is Reed. Saying KT is better than Reed at this point is straight homerism
    put KT with the Aggies and Reed with the Dogs and then you can compare them. KT will shine like the North Star.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcdog70 View Post
    he was throwing to HS players-some of them could not catch it in a basket. realistic--to me is when players like Tebow and Matt Wyatt say he is the best QB we have ever signed. Lebby says he is highly intelligent. i watched Him in Highschool he singlehanded beat Louisville ( they hadnot lost in 3 years). He was awesome then and He will be awesome going forward
    All those things are true but don?t also mean he is ready to be an SEC starter 10 months in

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    Florida just lost to Kentucky. They're cooked.
    They took Georgia to the wire the week before. Don't know what to expect from them week-to-week

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcdog70 View Post
    put KT with the Aggies and Reed with the Dogs and then you can compare them. KT will shine like the North Star.
    If he had the experience Reed has he would but Reed is in his 3rd year of college and enjoyed a RS year to get ready
    Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    Florida just lost to Kentucky. They're cooked.
    We should publicly keep reminding the bears that this week is player evaluations for Kiffin ahead of spring practice in FL.
    Florida players, at least defense, may have motivation this week to look good.

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    My dad, an ole miss fan, is becoming a KT fan in how he handles himself on and off the field. KT is a quality guy on and off the field, as are so many of our players. I want to win, but also saying this year's team has been a really fun group to watch and pull for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santiago View Post
    My dad, an ole miss fan, is becoming a KT fan in how he handles himself on and off the field. KT is a quality guy on and off the field, as are so many of our players. I want to win, but also saying this year's team has been a really fun group to watch and pull for.
    It makes you want them to win so much more. Like you feel like they deserve it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcdog70 View Post
    put KT with the Aggies and Reed with the Dogs and then you can compare them. KT will shine like the North Star.
    This. Basically goes back to this topic... Jimmy and Joe's. Reed has 4 and 5 stars littered all around him. KT has JUCO lineman blocking for him and 2 receivers that can make plays and he is scoring TD's while the other one isn't. Scripted is for the NFL.. College doesn't have to be Scripted to win as much. Manziel, Newton, Lamar... the list of dual threat QB's that extended unscripted plays can go on and on. When the best athlete on the field is your QB, he needs the ball. Especially 10 games into the season when your starting QB has turned into a turnover machine the last few games. We can all assume he will be great and we call all assume he isn't ready. We won't know until he is given the chance to start. But if his playing time as of now is any indication of how he will play an entire game, then we will win Saturday. Cause the kid scores touchdowns over half the time he is given an opportunity right now.

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    Also.. I got many OM fans. And I haven't met one yet that doesnt want Shapen to start against them. That should tell you a little something. KT is making more impressions on opposing fans than our own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEDawg View Post
    All those things are true but don?t also mean he is ready to be an SEC starter 10 months in
    what it means is He just played GA and scored 3 TDs. I'll say give Him a chance.

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    There is one thing that has really stood out to me the last two games with Kamario. He is more far more confident. You could tell in the A&M game it was too big for him. You could see his hesitation in the Florida game too. You do not see that kind of body language from him now. That is most impressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapGame View Post
    There is one thing that has really stood out to me the last two games with Kamario. He is more far more confident. You could tell in the A&M game it was too big for him. You could see his hesitation in the Florida game too. You do not see that kind of body language from him now. That is most impressive.
    He's getting more comfortable in the game. He's understanding that you can't out athlete people at this level. That's good. He still has learning to do though. Now I will say one thing he has learned and I'll give him a lot of credit for because young QBs don't understand it, he knows when to just tuck it and go. He's got pretty good pocket awareness. And unlike Van Buren, he has sense enough to know where the sticks are and get to them. He still struggles making the right read all the time, obviously has accuracy struggles, and we can't run the full offense with him.

    It's a learning process with a Freshman QB in this league. I do not expect to win starting him on Saturday night. I hope we win, but I'm not expecting it. And that's not doubting Kamario in any way. It's statistics telling me Freshman QBs with bad O Lines don't tend to do well in their first starts. Because look, Mizzou is going to blitz him early. They will zero blitz him at least one time early, whether that be on the first drive or second drive, to see how he handles it.

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