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[Todd4State]

Golding is going to have the Kamario package scouted to a T.

If we are going to roll with Kamario the rest of the year we are going to have to open the playbook up a lot more. And that is where the worry comes in. Freshman can get paralysis by analysis if you overload them and we can't cut down the gameplan just because he may not understand things. Our playbook the next two weeks can't be swing pass, deep pass, read option, QB keeper. They will be ready for that. We are going to have to use our usual RPO stuff with crossing routes and slants. The deep shots are going to have to still be there as well.

Thank you! Great post. We have too many fans that think that we can run a limited playbook like that for a game and succeed. Heck- look at Mizzou and what has happened with their freshman QB who I believe was also an Elite 11 participant. Three losses in a row.

[Goldendawg]

Golding is going to have the Kamario package scouted to a T.

If we are going to roll with Kamario the rest of the year we are going to have to open the playbook up a lot more. And that is where the worry comes in. Freshman can get paralysis by analysis if you overload them and we can't cut down the gameplan just because he may not understand things. Our playbook the next two weeks can't be swing pass, deep pass, read option, QB keeper. They will be ready for that. We are going to have to use our usual RPO stuff with crossing routes and slants. The deep shots are going to have to still be there as well.

He will also have the Shapen "packages" scouted out. Anyone else noticed out of our "20" or so WR types on the roster that we only have two go to types going into game 11? OL and DL are not the only positions that we seem to have had bad evaluations, poor development, or questionable coaching this year. But, but, we beat Arkansas, real signature win thus far.***

[StarkVegasSteve]

Thank you! Great post. We have too many fans that think that we can run a limited playbook like that for a game and succeed. Heck- look at Mizzou and what has happened with their freshman QB who I believe was also an Elite 11 participant. Three losses in a row.

We have too many that don't understand Elite 11 kids bust ALL THE TIME. Also, Luke Kromenhoek was an Elite 11 QB. You know who else was? Chris Parson(there's still no S). He's at Austin Peay. Also congrats to Chris. Set the Austin Peay rushing TDs for a QB record on Saturday. I think that kid will be back up at the G5 level next year.

You are also correct on Mizzou's QB. Zollers was an Elite 11 finalist the same year as Kamario.

[Goldendawg]

We have too many that don't understand Elite 11 kids bust ALL THE TIME. Also, Luke Kromenhoek was an Elite 11 QB. You know who else was? Chris Parson(there's still no S). He's at Austin Peay. Also congrats to Chris. Set the Austin Peay rushing TDs for a QB record on Saturday. I think that kid will be back up at the G5 level next year.

You are also correct on Mizzou's QB. Zollers was an Elite 11 finalist the same year as Kamario.

I know injuries have MO down to having a true Freshman to start against us. But barring a much better supporting cast, why can't KT lead us to victory against them, if Zollers can beat us?

[StarkVegasSteve]

He will also have the Shapen "packages" scouted out. Anyone else noticed out of our "20" or so WR types on the roster that we only have two go to types going into game 11? OL and DL are not the only positions that we seem to have had bad evaluations, poor development, or questionable coaching this year. But, but, we beat Arkansas, real signature win thus far.***

But Shapen can run the offense FULLY. Look I don't know how I have become the Blake Shapen defender. Because I don't like him. He makes bad reads for a 1st year starter, much less a kid who's started 35 straight games. He's mobile but doesn't want to use it. He can't manipulate the pocket and move it. And he waits for the HR ball to open up instead of hitting the 8 yd dump route at the sideline.

But he can run the offense and knows it fully. Kamario does not and cannot run the offense fully. Some of that is by design. We're bringing him along slowly. Now you can make an argument that we should have just started him from Day 1. And that's a completely different conversation and I would respect your opinion if you thought that was the case. If that happens we probably have 1 less win right now, because we don't beat Arizona St. We wouldn't have beaten Florida. I still think we beat Arkansas because they are absolutely putrid defensively.

[StarkVegasSteve]

I know injuries have MO down to having a true Freshman to start against us. But barring a much better supporting cast, why can't KT lead us to victory against them, if Zollers can beat us?

Well Issac Smith is out. Kelley Jones is banged up. Reese is still iffy. Mizzou runs the ball REALLY WELL and we defend the run REALLY POORLY.

If Kamario starts, which btw I am not real sure that's happening just based on some things I've heard, he will look like a Freshman starting in his first game. On the road. At night. In the SEC. That's not a recipe for success. It's especially not a recipe for success when we would have to tailor the offense to him and not be able to run the full offense. He would like a Freshman. He'd have 4-5 plays where he would look like Cam Newton. And he'd have 4-5 plays where he'd look like Jeremy Johnson.

I'm not saying we can't win. If we come out and stack the box and sell out to stop the run along with hitting 3-4 deep balls then we could win. But the recipe for a win is a lot smaller than a recipe for a loss. I think some people think Kamario is going to roll out there and look like Cam Newton or Marcel Reed immediately. That's not realistic. It's just not.

[Coach34]

I know injuries have MO down to having a true Freshman to start against us. But barring a much better supporting cast, why can't KT lead us to victory against them, if Zollers can beat us?

But why limit the offense when we can play both QB's and expand it more? That obviously gives us the best chance to win. Zollers has a good OL to rely on and they have a good defense overall. Mizzou is a much better team in the trenches than we are.

They are 5th in Scoring D- we are 14th
They are 5th in Rush D- we are 15th
They are 1st in Pass D- We are 9th
They are 2nd in Total D- We are 14th

We dont need to limit our offense against this team.

[Goldendawg]

But why limit the offense when we can play both QB's and expand it more? That obviously gives us the best chance to win. Zollers has a good OL to rely on and they have a good defense overall. Mizzou is a much better team in the trenches than we are.

They are 5th in Scoring D- we are 14th
They are 5th in Rush D- we are 15th
They are 1st in Pass D- We are 9th
They are 2nd in Total D- We are 14th

We dont need to limit our offense against this team.

Thanks for the info. It looks like from these stats, the reports of vast improvement in the second year of our defense under Hutzler and improved DL portal acquisitions were very premature, especially against SEC foes.

[Maroon Glasses]

But Shapen can run the offense FULLY. Look I don't know how I have become the Blake Shapen defender. Because I don't like him. He makes bad reads for a 1st year starter, much less a kid who's started 35 straight games. He's mobile but doesn't want to use it. He can't manipulate the pocket and move it. And he waits for the HR ball to open up instead of hitting the 8 yd dump route at the sideline.

But he can run the offense and knows it fully. Kamario does not and cannot run the offense fully. Some of that is by design. We're bringing him along slowly. Now you can make an argument that we should have just started him from Day 1. And that's a completely different conversation and I would respect your opinion if you thought that was the case. If that happens we probably have 1 less win right now, because we don't beat Arizona St. We wouldn't have beaten Florida. I still think we beat Arkansas because they are absolutely putrid defensively.

I'm not a Shapen hater.. I sincerely want the kid to be great. But like you said, he is not. And.like you said, he knows the offense but he does not run it to its full capability. He is either going to take a sack looking for the HR, hit the HR, or try throwing the ball across the middle. He does not seem to take the easy, open routes. Its either Evans or Thompson. I thought he was mobile but after this week its clear, he isn't. He did not look comfortable at all running the ball. Even his slides look un-athletic. It's almost like he limits us just as much as Kamario even tho he knows the entire offense. And I just want to clarify, I know Kamario doesn't know the full offense, he is a freshman, he will struggle reading schemes, etc. I know that.. either way we are limited. I just think he deserves a shot at this point.

[Coach34]

Thanks for the info. It looks like from these stats, the reports of vast improvement in the second year of our defense under Hutzler and improved DL portal acquisitions were very premature, especially against SEC foes.

We have improved- we just lack depth. Dolla bills ya'll

[TrapGame]

We have improved- we just lack depth. Dolla bills ya'll

It is all about the money. Just ask Texas Tech.

[Coach34]

losing two of your top portals in the trenches to knee injuries to start the season did us no favors for sure

[Goldendawg]

losing two of your top portals in the trenches to knee injuries to start the season did us no favors for sure

I agree. They were a very big loss on both sides of the ball, but they weren't the only portal guys we $igned on both sides of the line, and yet it seems none of the remaining ones could beat out Boone and a not ready redshirt freshman OL that has been moved up to starting LT out of sure necessity.

[EdwardDrayton]

They also run the ball very well and GA shredded us on the ground for 300 plus yards. I think we are now #15 against the run in the SEC. Our 3 man DL scheme has driven me mad all year. We don't stop the run or get much pressure at all on the QB.

If we can't control Missouri's run game and force them to throw, we're in a crap ton of trouble.