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    If your QB had 8 touchdowns to 10 turnovers in SEC play would you find an excuse for him or give someone else a shot? Not to mention the turnovers literally directly costed you 2 of your SEC losses

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB**** View Post
    If your QB had 8 touchdowns to 10 turnovers in SEC play would you find an excuse for him or give someone else a shot? Not to mention the turnovers literally directly costed you 2 of your SEC losses
    Implied in your question is that the turnovers are solely and directly attributable to the QB. And that is never the case. Were it not for other factors the QB would have more TDs and fewer turnovers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB**** View Post
    If your QB had 8 touchdowns to 10 turnovers in SEC play would you find an excuse for him or give someone else a shot? Not to mention the turnovers literally directly costed you 2 of your SEC losses
    Yes I would give KT his opportunity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maroon Glasses View Post
    Yes I would give KT his opportunity.
    If Shapen is hurt and thus cannot throw effectively then, yes, have to play KT. But we better hope he makes a significant step change hitting his targets or we likely will not win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton View Post
    If Shapen is hurt and thus cannot throw effectively then, yes, have to play KT. But we better hope he makes a significant step change hitting his targets or we likely will not win.
    I agree with you. One thing about KT is somehow we manage to sustain drives better and score. It isn't pretty majestic drives, but he keeps them alive and we score. 2 drives yesterday. 2 drives against Ark. These drives give our defense time to catch a breather. Shapen just has not been able to do this and I am not a Shapen hater. Now KT may go 3 and out every drive after I make this post. But as of now, he opens up the offense more and gives us a better chance. Blake is the better passer but KT is the best athlete on the field. He needs the ball in his hands.

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    I know earlier in the season we had both in the game at the same time time. Could we not do more of that? If nothing else it'd make our offense a nightmare to prepare for both seem to like to run with KT much better. Shapen is the better passer, but KT can do so to a degree. You could have one take the snap an you really have no idea what he would do. He tosses to the other an you still don't know what will be done. That could cause a few moments of hesitation and eyes in the backfield an give our fast receivers time to break open.

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    The fact that people are reacting to yesterday’s game is comical.
    It’s Georgia. They are the new BAMA in the SEC. There was an outside shot that we would catch them sleeping, we didn’t. They were prepared and dominated BOTH lines of scrimmage.

    I had hope that we would win or be competitive, we ran into a buzz saw yesterday. There is no need to make any changes at position based off of yesterday. They’re 10x more talented in every single position with a tenured head coach, and championship program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by starkvegasdawg View Post
    I know earlier in the season we had both in the game at the same time time. Could we not do more of that? If nothing else it'd make our offense a nightmare to prepare for both seem to like to run with KT much better. Shapen is the better passer, but KT can do so to a degree. You could have one take the snap an you really have no idea what he would do. He tosses to the other an you still don't know what will be done. That could cause a few moments of hesitation and eyes in the backfield an give our fast receivers time to break open.
    Yes. Think I would tilt the balance of the two more towards Shapen for Missouri. And more towards KT for the Egg Bowl. But the success of both hinges on what we get out of the OL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MBDawg601 View Post
    The fact that people are reacting to yesterday’s game is comical.
    It’s Georgia. They are the new BAMA in the SEC. There was an outside shot that we would catch them sleeping, we didn’t. They were prepared and dominated BOTH lines of scrimmage.

    I had hope that we would win or be competitive, we ran into a buzz saw yesterday. There is no need to make any changes at position based off of yesterday. They’re 10x more talented in every single position with a tenured head coach, and championship program.
    Yes. Pretty simple and succinct analysis captures it really. They are better than we are. And that was not a surprise.

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    Georgia has been to 4 straight SEC Championship games and 7 of the last 8

    Both QB's need to play at this point. My biggest concern is that Georgia didnt just beat us- they beat us up. It could be the old- "not only did Georgia beat us- they beat us up so bad we couldnt win the next week either"
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    Lebby needs quality OL and DL. I'm not sure any he has now even can be call quality.

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    From what I saw I’m more concerned with the gashing runs between the tackles......

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    At this point you got to get KT the experience. Shapen has had his chances and hasn't capitalized correctly so he doesn't have an argument.

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    Right Now with the line being what it is KT gives us the best chance at winning. Leb has to design a GP around his abilities not what he wants him to be. If it means going full Nicky Fitz then so be it.

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    Now a days you have to have a running QB that can also pass. You will simply gain more yardage and score more points. It's that simple, and that's what we need.

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    I'm agreeing with Coach. World is ending as we know it. Play both

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScooterDog View Post
    Now a days you have to have a running QB that can also pass. You will simply gain more yardage and score more points. It's that simple, and that's what we need.
    Agree! But you also need an offense line that is good enough to prevent a blindside career ending hit on the QB. See Shapen’s hit that took him out of the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranchdawg View Post
    Agree! But you also need an offense line that is good enough to prevent a blindside career ending hit on the QB. See Shapen’s hit that took him out of the game.
    I am told that during the offseason we paid big money for one OT in particular who had bad games before being out of the season and also brought in other portal OL. Even when doing this, Boone, a senior is starting at center and Jimothy Lewis Jr, who got Shapen blindsided, a redshirt freshman has started at LT, the most important position on the o-line during this year before many of these portal additions. We either spent too much money or had very poor evaluations and perhaps even poor coaching at this position. He got there late, but our new OL coach was a disaster at Colorado last year as they gave up constant sacks.

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    I don’t care who is doing the evaluations on future portal Oline men and who is coaching them. The buck stops at Lebby’s office. We are not paying peanuts for Lebby and it is imo that Lebby take some blame for this crap show of Oline. FIX IT!

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