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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapGame View Post
    Yes.

    We have two billionaires that refuse to give to athletics. One billionaire at Texas Tech decided to go all in on football and they are the #7 team in the country.

    The older people I talk to through work think we are going to put the genie back in the bottle and this NIL thing is just a fad. They are absolutely clueless on how modern college sports operates. They are stuck in 1995. They are adamant they are not giving money to buy players. They think we should be recruiting the players that play for pride, the love of State and not the love of money. Again, totally clueless on how modern sports operates.
    They want to recruit John Christian Taylor over at Oak Hill Academy. He is 5’10 and runs a 5.3 40 but they go to church with his grandfather and he comes from a good family that loves Mississippi State. That is who they want playing for us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    I will go as far as saying if we beat Mizzou we are going to win the Egg Bowl and if we lose, we may lose the Egg Bowl by 3 scores.
    I see the latter, we could beat Mizzou and then expectations are high (see today) and we lose by 20. But yeah my original point is we could lose next week and the egg and it?s still a good season based on expectations for the year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    They want to recruit John Christian Taylor over at Oak Hill Academy. He is 5’10 and runs a 5.3 40 but they go to church with his grandfather and he comes from a good family that loves Mississippi State. That is who they want playing for us.
    This is so true! And he says "yes sir" and "no sir".

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    They want to recruit John Christian Taylor over at Oak Hill Academy. He is 5’10 and runs a 5.3 40 but they go to church with his grandfather and he comes from a good family that loves Mississippi State. That is who they want playing for us.
    And he has zero D1 or D2 offers, but dadgum it, he's got heart and plays his butt off for four quarters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    1/3 of your roster is always going to be different in today's NCAA football each season.
    Sure, but we're going to have all new starters which may sound good, but it's new learning, and new chemistry. No continuity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bothrops View Post
    Sure, but we're going to have all new starters which may sound good, but it's new learning, and new chemistry. No continuity.
    So does everybody else.

    Mississippi has a new QB and new starting TB
    Georgia's QB started at the end of the season due to injury
    Bama's QB is a new starter
    Texas Tech spent $30MM and bought a new team


    college football is all about new rosters now
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    Quote Originally Posted by DEDawg View Post
    I see the latter, we could beat Mizzou and then expectations are high (see today) and we lose by 20. But yeah my original point is we could lose next week and the egg and it?s still a good season based on expectations for the year.
    Perhaps when compared to pre-season expectations but it quickly became clear that state had the ability to compete so I think it’s ok for expectations to change. State rattles off 4 straight wins and plays blow for blow against TN. State has 5 wins and 3 close losses due to decent coaching by Lebby (but you could argue we barely beat the worst SEC team this year by 3 after they wracked up almost 200 yards of penalty yards and beat ASU on a crazy fluke play). You could also say State is 5-5 and not 8-2 because of lebby’s coaching. If State ends 6-6 then they had a good season. If 5 wins is it then Lebby will 100% be on the hot seat next year.

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    I dont know about a "hot seat" but Lebby will be absolutely expected to go bowling in Y3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    So does everybody else.

    Mississippi has a new QB and new starting TB
    Georgia's QB started at the end of the season due to injury
    Bama's QB is a new starter
    Texas Tech spent $30MM and bought a new team


    college football is all about new rosters now
    So we can afford to buy 25-30 or so transfer players that can start and make us better than this year? I just don't see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bothrops View Post
    So we can afford to buy 25-30 or so transfer players that can start and make us better than this year? I just don't see it.
    Of course. See Revenue Sharing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bothrops View Post
    So we can afford to buy 25-30 or so transfer players that can start and make us better than this year? I just don't see it.
    We have to. That is today's college football
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bothrops View Post
    So we can afford to buy 25-30 or so transfer players that can start and make us better than this year? I just don't see it.
    We really only have two problems as I see it.

    1. Our offensive and defensive lines suck. I can give Loadholt a pass because of injuries and the fact he came in late. That said I have no idea why Turner is still around. He doesn't like the portal and he has missed on literally every Mississippi defensive line recruit since he came back.

    2. Our schedule is absolute bullshit. The SEC did us dirty. And yes, I know it's the SEC and etc. but our schedule is almost all ranked teams at home and our easy games are on the road. Our schedule next year isn't easy but it's a lot more manageable than our schedule this year. Talent wise we are probably a 7-8 win team with a better schedule instead of a 5-6 win team.

    My point is we're very close and if Kamario continues to improve and we improve along the lines and take advantage of all of the coaching changes we can turn around and improve pretty quickly. Not sure if that means getting 25-30 new players or not because that seems a little high to me but it might not be. At any rate we can do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinto View Post
    Our only two bad beats this year are to the #3 and #5 teams. Those teams will be in the playoffs. We are not a top 5 team and shouldn?t be surprised when we don?t go toe to toe with them.

    Yes Lebby is learning and we should probably have 2 or 3 more wins this season, but in looking at the big picture so far - this team has done damn good.

    We need to quit looking at what we just missed and start seeing how good we really are doing.

    Now, let?s get behind the team for these last two and go bowling!
    White helmet curse!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinto View Post
    we should probably have 2 or 3 more wins this season,
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    this team has done damn good.
    Both of these things can?t be true. 3 games is 25% of the entire season. You can?t cough up 1/4th of your games and be considered ?damn good?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    I dont know about a "hot seat" but Lebby will be absolutely expected to go bowling in Y3
    We may go bowling to a meaningless bowl even at 5-7 if there aren't enough teams at 6-6 and above to fill them. Some teams will decline as they now lose $ to go. Portal player$ will opt out of playing due to injury fears and looking for their next contract. The "we need the extra practices" argument no longer holds as you are flipping the team now every season. If not a CFC game, bowls no longer matter except to fill ESPN time slots and air time. Only the most hardcore fans go now to sit in a 50% full stadium. JMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldendawg View Post
    We may go bowling to a meaningless bowl even at 5-7 if there aren't enough teams at 6-6 and above to fill them. Some teams will decline as they now lose $ to go. Portal player$ will opt out of playing due to injury fears and looking for their next contract. The "we need the extra practices" argument no longer holds as you are flipping the team now every season. If not a CFC game, bowls no longer matter except to fill ESPN time slots and air time. Only the most hardcore fans go now to sit in a 50% full stadium. JMO.
    Disagree GD. Every extra rep Kamario gets makes him better. Those bowl practices are like a mini camp for the players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapGame View Post
    And he has zero D1 or D2 offers, but dadgum it, he's got heart and plays his butt off for four quarters.
    Have y'all checked the offer sheets of the majority of our 22 commits for the 2026 recruiting class, ranked #48 in the nation? Very close to this description for many. It's very concerning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapGame View Post
    Disagree GD. Every extra rep Kamario gets makes him better. Those bowl practices are like a mini camp for the players.
    See that point, but probably will be throwing to totally new WR's by the next season. I was mainly thinking of meshing the next year's returning players closer to being a team. I forgot reps to up and coming players as there seem to be so few developed in this portal world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    I will go as far as saying if we beat Mizzou we are going to win the Egg Bowl and if we lose, we may lose the Egg Bowl by 3 scores.
    We will lose the Egg Bowl by waaaaaaay more than 3 scores. We have a little glimmer of hope and Ole Miss wants nothing more than to slam that door completely shut. This program is cooked until our boosters decide to go all in on football. They won?t, though, because baseball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinto View Post
    Our only two bad beats this year are to the #3 and #5 teams. Those teams will be in the playoffs. We are not a top 5 team and shouldn?t be surprised when we don?t go toe to toe with them.

    Yes Lebby is learning and we should probably have 2 or 3 more wins this season, but in looking at the big picture so far - this team has done damn good.

    We need to quit looking at what we just missed and start seeing how good we really are doing.

    Now, let?s get behind the team for these last two and go bowling!
    Yep. We go through this every time we climb up that 25 to 35 range. It happened with Mullen,, it happened with Leach. A team in that range will lose by multiple scores to a top 5 team more often than not. And in the SEC, we usually play multiple top 5 teams.

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