MSU V GEORGIA

[EdwardDrayton]

His dad tweets incessantly that his son is Cam Newton reincarnated and then when people call him out on it he claims he is talking about his other son. He also keeps threatening transfer. Sounds like a couple of other helicopter QB parents.

His Dad is playing agent. Unfortunately that's the state of college sports now.

[StarkVegasSteve]

His Dad is playing agent. Unfortunately that's the state of college sports now.

Absolutely. Which is why I honestly pay no attention to what he says. Heck if it was my son I would probably do the same stupid ish. I just hate how he tries to hide from it when people call him out on it.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Why do you keep bringing up Ole Miss? They brought in a low cost transfer for depth. He wasn?t brought in with expectations to beat out Simmons. Thats the opposite of what you are suggesting we do. Maybe you are one of the low iq fans.

They paid him 500K. That is not low cost transfer. He was brought in because they did have questions about Simmons. Anyone around that program will tell you that. They saw something with Chambliss. They knew that best case they had a great backup and nuclear option they had someone who could effectively run their offense if Simmons was not what they needed him to be.

[StarkVegasSteve]

It really does not matter what any of us think. I think we all want Mississippi State to win, at least on this board. Do I hope Kamario is incredible? Absolutely. Do I have questions? Absolutely. His accuracy is iffy and he makes some bad reads. But do I think he can work past that? Of course. He is a damn freshman. He was in the Mississippi 3A playoffs at this time last year. Lebby is a good enough coach to mask some of those concerns, and he did at times today. He gave him a lot of one read stuff.

I think he starts next weekend and I hope he does well and we win. Do I think it will happen? No. I think he will have moments that make us say he is incredible and moments that make us say WTF are you doing. And that is ok. He is a Freshman.

[Coursesuper]

His Dad is playing agent. Unfortunately that's the state of college sports now.

His dad has no impact on anything that happens with the kid. Mama is in charge.

[EdwardDrayton]

His dad has no impact on anything that happens with the kid. Mama is in charge.

Maybe so. But don't think I'd push all my chips to the center on that notion just in case.

[StarkVegasSteve]

His dad has no impact on anything that happens with the kid. Mama is in charge.

His dad is just annoying more than anything. He knows Kamario will be just another player at some other school. He will be a hero here. Hell people still talk about his uncle, Omar, and he never even had a winning season at State.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Maybe so. But don't think I'd push all my chips to the center on that notion just in case.

I would. His dad is annoying but that is all it really is. Noise. He is not actually going to do anything.

[tcdog70]

His dad has no impact on anything that happens with the kid. Mama is in charge.

Omarr has more influence

[StarkVegasSteve]

Omarr has more influence

Yep. If his dad had his way, he would have just gone to the highest bidder out of HS.

[tcdog70]

His dad is just annoying more than anything. He knows Kamario will be just another player at some other school. He will be a hero here. Hell people still talk about his uncle, Omar, and he never even had a winning season at State.

You do realize that many players at State can say they didn’t have a winning season. If you think Omarr or KT would not be a big deal at other schools then you don’t know much about talent or football. It’s not Omarrs fault he had Croom for a Coach.

[StarkVegasSteve]

You do realize that many players at State can say they didn’t have a winning season. If you think Omarr or KT would not be a big deal at other schools then you don’t know much about talent or football. It’s not Omarrs fault he had Croom for a Coach.

I think you misunderstood my point. My point was that although his record was not good Omar is still revered at State because he was a great athlete. DJ Shockley was a great athlete at UGA but no one really reveres him.

[1eyedog]

Omar was GREAT.....

[StarkVegasSteve]

Omar was GREAT.....

Just in the wrong offense for his skill set. Croom wanted him to be a WR

[tcdog70]

It really does not matter what any of us think. I think we all want Mississippi State to win, at least on this board. Do I hope Kamario is incredible? Absolutely. Do I have questions? Absolutely. His accuracy is iffy and he makes some bad reads. But do I think he can work past that? Of course. He is a damn freshman. He was in the Mississippi 3A playoffs at this time last year. Lebby is a good enough coach to mask some of those concerns, and he did at times today. He gave him a lot of one read stuff.

I think he starts next weekend and I hope he does well and we win. Do I think it will happen? No. I think he will have moments that make us say he is incredible and moments that make us say WTF are you doing. And that is ok. He is a Freshman.

Yep He is Freshman. But our 5th year Sr makes lots of stupid plays and decisions.but you never mention that. KT had 4 series and scored on two of them. Blake can’t run, he holds the ball too long, numerous times he has overthrown wide open WRs . The worst pass of the season wasn’t KT it was Shapen in the Fla game. That one play should have benched him for the season.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Yep He is Freshman. But our 5th year Sr makes lots of stupid plays and decisions.but you never mention that. KT had 4 series and scored on two of them. Blake can’t run, he holds the ball too long, numerous times he has overthrown wide open WRs . The worst pass of the season wasn’t KT it was Shapen in the Fla game. That one play should have benched him for the season.

So what about his throw to Thompson against Arizona State? Or his throw to Evans against Arkansas? QBs make mistakes. It happens. Kamario about knocked someone’s drink out of their hand in the Gridiron Club trying to throw to Evans yesterday. It does not mean I want to bench him and put in Kromenhoek. Does it suck that Shapen makes bad decisions as a 5th year senior? You bet your ass it does. But he has also made GW throws for us. You have to take the good with the bad. Kamario will have his time. It may be Saturday and it may be next year. It will come if he continues to progress.

[EdwardDrayton]

Yep He is Freshman. But our 5th year Sr makes lots of stupid plays and decisions.but you never mention that. KT had 4 series and scored on two of them. Blake can’t run, he holds the ball too long, numerous times he has overthrown wide open WRs . The worst pass of the season wasn’t KT it was Shapen in the Fla game. That one play should have benched him for the season.

I understand what you're saying. However I do believe because of the matchup characteristics with Missouri, Blake gives us the best shot to win THAT game. If he is healthy and can throw effectively. We need the passing game against Missouri and don't see a high probability KT is going to make that kind of step change with his accuracy that quickly. And even if that is the play, can the OL give either one of them enough time. And then possibly more injuries on top of that. We are not in a very enviable position all around.

[EdwardDrayton]

So what about his throw to Thompson against Arizona State? Or his throw to Evans against Arkansas? QBs make mistakes. It happens. Kamario about knocked someone’s drink out of their hand in the Gridiron Club trying to throw to Evans yesterday. It does not mean I want to bench him and put in Kromenhoek. Does it suck that Shapen makes bad decisions as a 5th year senior? You bet your ass it does. But he has also made GW throws for us. You have to take the good with the bad. Kamario will have his time. It may be Saturday and it may be next year. It will come if he continues to progress.

Yep. LOL!

[tcdog70]

Just in the wrong offense for his skill set. Croom wanted him to be a WR

That is because Croom had no WRs. Omarr had to switch to receiver because he was the only one that could run a route.

[tcdog70]

So what about his throw to Thompson against Arizona State? Or his throw to Evans against Arkansas? QBs make mistakes. It happens. Kamario about knocked someone’s drink out of their hand in the Gridiron Club trying to throw to Evans yesterday. It does not mean I want to bench him and put in Kromenhoek. Does it suck that Shapen makes bad decisions as a 5th year senior? You bet your ass it does. But he has also made GW throws for us. You have to take the good with the bad. Kamario will have his time. It may be Saturday and it may be next year. It will come if he continues to progress.

Shapen has overthrown several wide ass open players for TDs. When he threw that stupid interception in The Fla game 0 was running wide open down the sideline . Shapen holds the ball takes uncalled for sacks all the time. There is absolutely nothing Shapen does that Kamario can’t do better.