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    In watching highly sucessful teams in the SEC it always seems the have-nots have one major factor in common -- those who become head coaches turn over play-calling to assistants. You can say Kiffen is the exact opposite, but you cannot deny the fact if it were not for Saban having him OC at Bama made him able to do so. I would also like to point out how Moorehead was always claimed to be the best OC in the country and absolutely ruined everything when he showed that a HC he was not. We know Lebby was a top OC at Oklahoma, but as long as most of his attention is on one side of the ball the other sides will suffer. Mullen was successful as an OC and as HC for State, but he showed true colors at Florida. We need a head coach who can contribute but leave the call playing itself to someone else and just run the program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coursesuper View Post
    Damn chicken little, it?s not that bad.
    Have you looked at the schedule and roster?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bothrops View Post
    Have you looked at the schedule and roster?
    No I live in a bubble in the state of oblivion. Of course I have, we live in the SEC all this come with the territory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEDawg View Post
    Back in June we all would have been thrilled going into the egg with 5 wins being able to beat them and get to a bowl. Well guess what
    We have a better chance to beat Mizzou than win the Egg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowbeller View Post
    Not saying Lebby is a bad coach but expectations are reality. As State fans being happy with 6 wins is bullshit. We are a minimum 8 win school and this year that was possible.
    Expectations are indeed reality. We were expected to struggle to win 4 and have exceeded that this season. Winning 6 would be a helluva season
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    Quote Originally Posted by shoeless joe View Post
    I’m happy with the improvement I’m seeing in almost every asset. My issue is that there has been absolutely zero improvement in play call/decision making from the HC and the QB position. I can be pleased at the progress and still be pissed where there has been absolutely none when we are at the end of yr 2.
    I just watched Candy's HC pass on kicking the FG with a minute left in a tie game to go for it on 4th and 1. Didnt get it.

    Analytics have changed the way coaches make decisions now. Hell, our team in HS went for it on 4th down inside our own 40 about 7-8 times this season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    I just watched Candy's HC pass on kicking the FG with a minute left in a tie game to go for it on 4th and 1. Didnt get it.

    Analytics have changed the way coaches make decisions now. Hell, our team in HS went for it on 4th down inside our own 40 about 7-8 times this season.
    Yep, bad decision, seems now days more teams are going for it. I would have kicked ii.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    I just watched Candy's HC pass on kicking the FG with a minute left in a tie game to go for it on 4th and 1. Didnt get it.

    Analytics have changed the way coaches make decisions now. Hell, our team in HS went for it on 4th down inside our own 40 about 7-8 times this season.
    I don't have a mathematical model in front of me, but there's no way Lea made a decision made on analytics there. Just a colossal screwup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDawg View Post
    Lebby has far exceeded my expectations. We have the right coach, just need to keep adding talent and build around KT.
    Agree. And we absolutely have got to keep KT. I'm a bit concerned about that due to the way his Dad acts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quaoarsking View Post
    I don't have a mathematical model in front of me, but there's no way Lea made a decision made on analytics there. Just a colossal screwup.
    analytics says always go for it on 4th and 1. He gets it and he gets to run the clock down to 3 seconds and win the game or go to OT. No guarantees either on 40 plus yard FG's. Our kicker missed from 37 Thursday and he is the best kicker in the state- signing with A&M next month.

    I would have kicked it there tho myself. I'm not big on analytics- I go by gut feeling
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    Quote Originally Posted by basedog View Post
    Yep, bad decision, seems now days more teams are going for it. I would have kicked ii.
    It was a terrible call.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DownwardDawg View Post
    Agree. And we absolutely have got to keep KT. I'm a bit concerned about that due to the way his Dad acts.
    KT isnt going anywhere. He knows its his job next year
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quaoarsking View Post
    I don't have a mathematical model in front of me, but there's no way Lea made a decision made on analytics there. Just a colossal screwup.
    Yup

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    KT isnt going anywhere. He knows its his job next year
    Well apparently we need to get all our folks on that same page.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    analytics says always go for it on 4th and 1. He gets it and he gets to run the clock down to 3 seconds and win the game or go to OT. No guarantees either on 40 plus yard FG's. Our kicker missed from 37 Thursday and he is the best kicker in the state- signing with A&M next month.

    I would have kicked it there tho myself. I'm not big on analytics- I go by gut feeling
    There are no "always" when it comes to analytics. Most situations you go on 4th and 1, but I can just about guarantee you you kick on 4th down from the 25 on a tie game, mathematically speaking, if you're maximizing your probability of winning.

    Pavia really wanted to go for it, and Lea allowed it. Just a bad call from the coach that didn't end up hurting them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DownwardDawg View Post
    Agree. And we absolutely have got to keep KT. I'm a bit concerned about that due to the way his Dad acts.
    His dad is nothing to worry about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coursesuper View Post
    No I live in a bubble in the state of oblivion. Of course I have, we live in the SEC all this come with the territory.
    So you agree then

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quaoarsking View Post
    There are no "always" when it comes to analytics. Most situations you go on 4th and 1, but I can just about guarantee you you kick on 4th down from the 25 on a tie game, mathematically speaking, if you're maximizing your probability of winning.

    Pavia really wanted to go for it, and Lea allowed it. Just a bad call from the coach that didn't end up hurting them.
    I would have kicked it also. I'm just pointing out that today's coaches do shit differently than they did even 10 years ago. One thing has always been true- sometimes you look like a genius- sometimes a dumbass
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bothrops View Post
    So you agree then
    1/3 of your roster is always going to be different in today's NCAA football each season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    1/3 of your roster is always going to be different in today's NCAA football each season.
    Big time.

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