I just need to know...

[TrapGame]

Why would you say something like that??

Like what?

That our administration knows more than the average piss ant fan on this board?

That we have people acting irrational to our current circumstances?

That we have people completely overreacting to the situation?

Again, like what?

[R2Dawg]

I honestly think people being loud about wanting him fired now are hurting the program. It?s probably why Lebby might want out. It is making the fanbase look dumb and unable to understand the nuances of the situation.

I agree with this. We are so much better everywhere and have a HC still learning. I'm as frustrated as anyone about the 3 losses this year that were easy wins just doing one of 20 things in any game but I've seen enough to feel good we are going in the right direction. We need to keep this momentum with recruiting and get a return on our two year investment. Starting over, just feels terrible right now. I don't want to wait 2 more years before we compete again.

Next year must be 6 wins as floor and bowling or go another direction.

[BrunswickDawg]

It's a fair point and worthy of discussion. I predicted 5 wins before the season as well. But that prediction was made considering we had the second hardest schedule in the country. Turns out the schedule has been average after all. I think that's where the evaluation has turned against Lebby (as it should). I'll say it again, I'm all for the season playing out, if he can win one measly game (in 2 years) he keeps it. But if he goes 0-16 and the cherry on top is a skull dragging by Ole Miss in front of 25,000 rebel fans at Davis Wade...see ya!

Ok - so it isn't the 2nd hardest at the moment. ESPN has us as the #14 SOS right now. Our losses are to their FPI #7 Texas, #8 A&M, #13 TN and #27 UF. Our FPI is 44 (right ahead of ASU at 45).
ESPN shows our remaining SOS as #4 - as we still have #6 UGA, #12 Ole Miss, #19 Mizzou, and #37 Arkansas. So, currently every SEC team we play is rated as better than us, and likely that our SOS ends up in the Top 10. IIRC - the only change is that ASU had a higher FPI then us when the season started.

[msstate7]

Ok - so it isn't the 2nd hardest at the moment. ESPN has us as the #14 SOS right now. Our losses are to their FPI #7 Texas, #8 A&M, #13 TN and #27 UF. Our FPI is 44 (right ahead of ASU at 45).
ESPN shows our remaining SOS as #4 - as we still have #6 UGA, #12 Ole Miss, #19 Mizzou, and #37 Arkansas. So, currently every SEC team we play is rated as better than us, and likely that our SOS ends up in the Top 10. IIRC - the only change is that ASU had a higher FPI than us when the season started.

You like FPI now?

[Brobi-wan]

“I’m tired of this, Grandpa”

[MoreCowbell]

If Lebby wants to quit because Quaoarsking and msstate7 don't think 0-12 is good enough (not even the majority position on this board), then he just isn't mentally strong enough to be a head coach anywhere.

It is more than just those two. There?s even a thread on tRant talking about how delirious State fans are wanting him fired. Even if he loses out firing him would be so moronic. Like we are by far the worst job in SEC because of how hard it is to win here especially now with NIL. Yeah let us fire a guy who has us going in the right direction, people will be beating down the door to coach here. Just retarded to want that.

[gtowndawg]

Even if he loses out firing him would be so moronic. Like we are by far the worst job in SEC because of how hard it is to win here especially now with NIL.

"Thanks for the vote of confidence. Much appreciated." - Mississippi State University

edited: I love you guys but my gosh, I just don't understand for the life of me how you go thru life so invested in a school and program that you see in such a negative light. Mississippi State has TONS of potential, the school, the city and yes the football program but man we just accept losing so easily. I honestly don't understand it.

[Wink&aPrayer]

I honestly think people being loud about wanting him fired now are hurting the program. It?s probably why Lebby might want out. It is making the fanbase look dumb and unable to understand the nuances of the situation.

How about pee-wee soccer in Tupelo or Belden?

[BrunswickDawg]

You like FPI now?

You would catch that lol.

So lets go to the current AP Poll - Losses to #2 A&M; #14 Tennessee; #20 Texas and unranked Florida. Still have #5 GA; #7 OM; #19 Mizzou; and unranked Arky on the schedule.
Pre-season this was #1 Texas; #19 A&M; #24 Tennessee; #15 Florida; #5 GA; #21 OM; Unranked Mizzou & Arky and we beat pre-season #11 ASU.

UF and Mizzou flip flop and ASU has been week to week ranked/unranked. That's not a whole lot of actual change, just perception of which team is where in the pecking order.

[Turfdawg67]

"Thanks for the vote of confidence. Much appreciated." - Mississippi State University

edited: I love you guys but my gosh, I just don't understand for the life of me how you go thru life so invested in a school and program that you see in such a negative light. Mississippi State has TONS of potential, the school, the city and yes the football program but man we just accept losing so easily. I honestly don't understand it.

Well, we've been losing my whole life basically, so why would I expect anything different. What's the definition of insanity again...

[CaptainObvious]

I don?t know if these message boards would qualify as a reasonable test sample, but if I had to guess, Right Now, the Fanbase is 60% Keep him another year
40% Cut him and move on even in this crazy coaching environment

IF, he does go 4-8 (0-8 SEC) I suspect that will flip to 60 want him gone.

By the way, since so many of yall say Last Year doesn?t count, did the NCAA erase last years results from our record? Is State the only program that isn?t counting last year?s results in our records?

In 2020, when Leach was forced to play a 10 game SEC schedule and managed to only win 3 of them, did that count against our record? It seems the only fair thing for the SEC to do is not even count those 8 losses for us and the 8 wins for our opponents!

It would have also been fair in 2020 to have all the other 13 teams play a 10 game SEC schedule but allow Po? Ol? MSU to only play 6 SEC games and 4 games against FBS teams. Seems like we are getting ripped off for having to keep playing the schedule they give us!!!😂😂😂😂

[Turfdawg67]

You would catch that lol.

So lets go to the current AP Poll - Losses to #2 A&M; #14 Tennessee; #20 Texas and unranked Florida. Still have #5 GA; #7 OM; #19 Mizzou; and unranked Arky on the schedule.
Pre-season this was #1 Texas; #19 A&M; #24 Tennessee; #15 Florida; #5 GA; #21 OM; Unranked Mizzou & Arky and we beat pre-season #11 ASU.

UF and Mizzou flip flop and ASU has been week to week ranked/unranked. That's not a whole lot of actual change, just perception of which team is where in the pecking order.

Don't throw stats at the stat guy. Lolz. His phone is smoking right now as he scours Google frantically.

[msstate7]

Don't throw stats at the stat guy. Lolz. His phone is smoking right now as he scours Google frantically.

Nah...

[confucius say]

I think you have to adjust your preseason expectations when it turns out Florida is a complete dumpster fire and Texas and Arch are way overrated.

But Mississippi and TN are better than people thought.

[confucius say]

Leach got a pass in year one.
So did lebby.
The upward trajectory is obvious, undeniable. But it has to turn into wins in November or by next year. I think it will if our fans will leave him the hell alone (like not booing our team in the first possession vs Texas).

[BrunswickDawg]

Nah...

Cheers brother - I'm sipping a glass of Jefferson's myself.

[msstate7]

Cheers brother - I'm sipping a glass of Jefferson's myself.

Cheers.

[Homedawg]

Nah...

That explains some. But not all......

[Turfdawg67]

Nah...

Hey, that’s not a Zima…

[msstate7]

Hey, that’s not a Zima…

That's the wife's. My zima was out, so I'm drinking high noons haha