Fire Lebby

[Cowbell]

I wouldn?t touch us with a 50ft pole. We refuse to fill up the stadium. We barely support the program compared to our league. Our facilities are the worst in the conference. Our NIL is just no where near it needs to be, we are a stepping stone for talent. It?s a hard sell for anyone.

We beat Tennessee and the stadium would stay full. Winning cures

[Cowbell]

Dan is obviously the first call, if he will take it. That is what some are not understanding. Dan is not all that keen on coming back here because he does have good memories. He does not want it to go badly.

He would be back here tomorrow

[Coursesuper]

We beat Tennessee and the stadium would stay full. Winning cures

We were 4-0 then and it wasn?t even close to full. Our people stay away in droves.

[PGHBulldogBG]

We were 4-0 then and it wasn?t even close to full. Our people stay away in droves.

That is one of the main reasons that we are not a more successful program. Don?t get me wrong we have some great fans, but not nearly the number the other SEC schools have outside Vandy. We don?t have a large enough alumni base that cares much about football. A lot of this can be contributed to the fact we have never been good in football for extended periods of time. Also, our school draws more the outdoorsman type student who prefer those type of activities besides going to a football game. We have proven with Mullen we can fill a stadium and be just as great as other fanbases when we have exceptionally good years like 2010 and 2014 and 2017 and the fan base is pulling in the same direction. That has not been the case since Mullen left because our ADs keep making mistake after mistake with their football coaching hires.

[parabrave]

Lebby will lead us.

We are on the way.

Scoob you forgot these ****

[Coursesuper]

That is one of the main reasons that we are not a more successful program. Don?t get me wrong we have some great fans, but not nearly the number the other SEC schools have outside Vandy. We don?t have a large enough alumni base that cares much about football. A lot of this can be contributed to the fact we have never been good in football for extended periods of time. Also, our school draws more the outdoorsman type student who prefer those type of activities besides going to a football game. We have proven with Mullen we can fill a stadium and be just as great as other fanbases when we have exceptionally good years like 2010 and 2014 and 2017 and the fan base is pulling in the same direction. That has not been the case since Mullen left because our ADs keep making mistake after mistake with their football coaching hires.

AD, singular, that?s the one that landed us in this recurring shit show.

[FISHDAWG]

I just fear where he is leading us. I am all for patience when exactly no one else is in this day and age of college football but we have to start winning. Progress and getting better has to yield results and right now it is not. I like Jeff and I think he is a great guy and an elite OC. But at some point you have to be the HC. Right now he is operating as an HC like an OC.

There is no way you can deny enormous progress has been made this season. I feel your frustration over dumb decisions but we are light years ahead of last year... the problem is it's not always measured in wins. We have been competitive in every game except 1 ... Lebby will learn and improve just the same as how he has improved this team in only one year. Pour another and contemplate this as I know you to be a very rational poster.... And again, I understand but tomorrow when emotions subside and objective reasoning sets in I'm sure as a MSU fan you will reboot as we have done time and again.... Here's to expecting next year to change this perspective that is so hard to deal with. I know you have been a patient supporter and a voice of reason so don't give up on the optimistic bunch of us now lol

[Quaoarsking]

There is no way you can deny enormous progress has been made this season. I feel your frustration over dumb decisions but we are light years ahead of last year... the problem is it's not always measured in wins. We have been competitive in every game except 1 ... Lebby will learn and improve just the same as how he has improved this team in only one year. Pour another and contemplate this as I know you to be a very rational poster.... And again, I understand but tomorrow when emotions subside and objective reasoning sets in I'm sure as a MSU fan you will reboot as we have done time and again.... Here's to expecting next year to change this perspective.

Stop comparing him to 2024 when he was the coach!

If you want to argue that he's better than Arnett in 2023, you can do that, but it's not vast improvement.

[BuckyIsAB****]

If Dan Mullen is remotely halfway partly interested you call him right now

[Quaoarsking]

If Dan Mullen is remotely halfway partly interested you call him right now

You 100% have to reach out and see. Can you imagine KT in the Mullen offense, with a roster built by NIL rather than Mullen's recruiting skills?

[FISHDAWG]

Stop comparing him to 2024 when he was the coach!

If you want to argue that he's better than Arnett in 2023, you can do that, but it's not vast improvement.

If you can't see the difference he's made then you're just not paying attention....we were in the abyss last year and now we're competitive

[Quaoarsking]

If you can't see the difference he's made then you're just not paying attention....we were in the abyss last year and now we're competitive

That statement isn't false, I just don't think he should get much credit for improving on his own bad performance.

Like imagine if you were complete dogѕhit at work for the next week, and then the following week were kinda bad but "improved" -- do you think your boss would give you credit for the improvement when the bar should have never been so low in the first place?

I know that Lebby walked into a tough situation, but it wasn't "get humiliated at home by the 6th best team in MAC" bad.

[cheewgumm]

There are times I feel this way , but the reality is our team is 100X better than last year:

Lebby has to get credit for that.

[Quaoarsking]

There are times I feel this way , but the reality is our team is 100X better than last year:

Lebby has to get credit for that.

No, he doesn't have to get credit for getting out of a hole he helped dig. We were probably destined to be bad last year no matter what, but most coaches wouldn't have gotten blown out by Toledo.

If you want to give him credit for improving on Arnett's 2023 season, that's fair.

[FISHDAWG]

That statement isn't false, I just don't think he should get much credit for improving on his own bad performance.

Like imagine if you were complete dogѕhit at work for the next week, and then the following week were kinda bad but "improved" -- do you think your boss would give you credit for the improvement when the bar should have never been so low in the first place?

I know that Lebby walked into a tough situation, but it wasn't "get humiliated at home by the 6th best team in MAC" bad.

Ok I get it but don't forget that replacing last years team IS a big part of that performance that you speak of

[Quaoarsking]

Key question - is Lebby doing something to personally shakedown the NIL donors that other coaches wouldn't do?

Assuming the answer is no, then I don't give Lebby much credit for improving our roster, since it's all about money nowadays. If Brent Vigen or someone else were our head coach, they would presumably have the same access to NIL funds to bring in players they want.

[cheewgumm]

Progress

It is undeniable

Texas toyed with us last year.
This year we should have won.