This is 99.9% of MSU's problem

[CadaverDawg]

https://x.com/cfb_data/status/197994...-ilLZm30lpfyng



You just simply cannot have a QB that is of no threat with his legs these days.

[BeardoMSU]

Zoinks....I knew it was bad, but holy shit...

Indefensible.

[TrapGame]

We'd be 6-1with Arnold.

Freeze totally ****ed us.

[EdwardDrayton]

<sigh>'

[msstate7]

Sucks we didn't know he was so immobile until this season

[EdwardDrayton]

Sucks we didn't know he was so immobile until this season

<slow clap>'

[CadaverDawg]

Sucks we didn't know he was so immobile until this season

Signed a top dual threat recruit, and had the inside track on the top transfer, but our boosters got outbid by Auburn. Sucks.

Anxious to see this offense with a guy with legs at QB

[justwin]

https://x.com/cfb_data/status/197994...-ilLZm30lpfyng



You just simply cannot have a QB that is of no threat with his legs these days.

it's kamario's time to start and play. He will win 3 of next 5 if give him full playbook. he's DAK 2.0 but much more advanced at this stage. all of those Qbs that lebby desperately tried to sign in dec didn't come as they knew kamario was here. kamario is why MVB left. Play Kamario and save your job & thrive, lebby, as it didnt' have to be like this as your offense is legit but lebby is driving himself to unemployment by starting shapen.

[EdwardDrayton]

it's kamario's time to start and play. He will win 3 of next 5 if give him full playbook. he's DAK 2.0 but much more advanced at this stage. all of those Qbs that lebby desperately tried to sign in dec didn't come as they knew kamario was here. kamario is why MVB left. Play Kamario and save your job & thrive, lebby, as it didnt' have to be like this as your offense is legit but lebby is driving himself to unemployment by starting shapen.

It's an interesting dynamic. Lebby knows he needs one win to assure a third year. And yet he still believes Shapen is the one to do that. I hope it works out for him. I'm not giving it good odds at this juncture.

[Leroy Jenkins]

Put all those other QBs behind this O-line and check the stats again.

[StarkVegasSteve]

it's kamario's time to start and play. He will win 3 of next 5 if give him full playbook. he's DAK 2.0 but much more advanced at this stage. all of those Qbs that lebby desperately tried to sign in dec didn't come as they knew kamario was here. kamario is why MVB left. Play Kamario and save your job & thrive, lebby, as it didnt' have to be like this as your offense is legit but lebby is driving himself to unemployment by starting shapen.

1. Kamario will not win 3 of the next 5 if he starts. He will lose all 5, and lose them very bad.

2. He is not Dak 2.0 and he is not more advanced, which is saying something. Kamario cannot run the offense to its fullest.

3. We only pursued 2 QBs, Arnold and Kromenhoek. Jackson went to Auburn because they overpaid by a million dollars. Not one QB gave a flying 17 that Kamario was committed.

4. Van Buren transferred because we brought back Shapen. He also did not give one iota of a flying 17 about Kamario.

5. If we play Kamario we will not thrive. We will suck and all of you will say he is a bust. I have a mountain of backup QBs to prove my point.

I know the facts have once again gotten in the way of a good narrative but sometimes you just have to understand and accept that there is a reason Kamario is not playing. He is not ready. He is ready for what we are asking him to do, which is why he plays in those situations. He may be ready next year and he may not. I do know we will be pursuing a QB in the portal and it will be someone who can start. Because you do not just roll with Taylor and do not look back. Think what would have happened if OM would have just said, “hell, we got Simmons and he was good for one drive. We do not need to give 500K to the Ferris St QB”. You always should attempt to make your team better. I mean if Kamario is as good as you all say he is then he should have no problem at all winning a QB competition. Unless…..

[Rawdawg]

I think that factors in sacks too which is a reflection of the offensive line. But if Shapen could move some he wouldnt get sacked as much.

[msstate7]

I think that factors in sacks too which is a reflection of the offensive line. But if Shapen could move some he wouldnt get sacked as much.

Shapen is 15th in the sec in QbR. He's not good

[StarkVegasSteve]

I think that factors in sacks too which is a reflection of the offensive line. But if Shapen could move some he wouldnt get sacked as much.

Our line was MUCH better last night in pass pro. 2 of the sacks were on Shapen, which is a fatal flaw of his. He holds the ball too long looking for the deep shot, which makes the last play piss me off even more because the QB who always holds the ball made a quick decision.

[Hail State]

Not even gonna lie, I have no idea what that graph means.

[Activated Alpha]

I don't understand how to post a gif apparently

[CadaverDawg]

Not even gonna lie, I have no idea what that graph means.

Up and Down is passing

Left and Right is rushing

The best dual threats would be in the upper right, and the worst would be lower left.

Shapen is....well....about as far away from the upper right as you can get

[TaleofTwoDogs]

1. Kamario will not win 3 of the next 5 if he starts. He will lose all 5, and lose them very bad.

2. He is not Dak 2.0 and he is not more advanced, which is saying something. Kamario cannot run the offense to its fullest.

3. We only pursued 2 QBs, Arnold and Kromenhoek. Jackson went to Auburn because they overpaid by a million dollars. Not one QB gave a flying 17 that Kamario was committed.

4. Van Buren transferred because we brought back Shapen. He also did not give one iota of a flying 17 about Kamario.

5. If we play Kamario we will not thrive. We will suck and all of you will say he is a bust. I have a mountain of backup QBs to prove my point.

I know the facts have once again gotten in the way of a good narrative but sometimes you just have to understand and accept that there is a reason Kamario is not playing. He is not ready. He is ready for what we are asking him to do, which is why he plays in those situations. He may be ready next year and he may not. I do know we will be pursuing a QB in the portal and it will be someone who can start. Because you do not just roll with Taylor and do not look back. Think what would have happened if OM would have just said, ?hell, we got Simmons and he was good for one drive. We do not need to give 500K to the Ferris St QB?. You always should attempt to make your team better. I mean if Kamario is as good as you all say he is then he should have no problem at all winning a QB competition. Unless?..

Coach Lebby is that you???? *

[Todd4State]

1. Kamario will not win 3 of the next 5 if he starts. He will lose all 5, and lose them very bad.

2. He is not Dak 2.0 and he is not more advanced, which is saying something. Kamario cannot run the offense to its fullest.

3. We only pursued 2 QBs, Arnold and Kromenhoek. Jackson went to Auburn because they overpaid by a million dollars. Not one QB gave a flying 17 that Kamario was committed.

4. Van Buren transferred because we brought back Shapen. He also did not give one iota of a flying 17 about Kamario.

5. If we play Kamario we will not thrive. We will suck and all of you will say he is a bust. I have a mountain of backup QBs to prove my point.

I know the facts have once again gotten in the way of a good narrative but sometimes you just have to understand and accept that there is a reason Kamario is not playing. He is not ready. He is ready for what we are asking him to do, which is why he plays in those situations. He may be ready next year and he may not. I do know we will be pursuing a QB in the portal and it will be someone who can start. Because you do not just roll with Taylor and do not look back. Think what would have happened if OM would have just said, “hell, we got Simmons and he was good for one drive. We do not need to give 500K to the Ferris St QB”. You always should attempt to make your team better. I mean if Kamario is as good as you all say he is then he should have no problem at all winning a QB competition. Unless…..

All of this. And it's very obvious.


And on Shapen- to those talking about how "immobile" he is- most people did not want him to rush because of his injury history. And now we're complaining about him not running it enough.

[Todd4State]

We have fans that do not care if our QB can pass as long as he can run the ball. That is insane.