Buy/Sell: Arch Manning will not be the starting QB by our game w/ Texas

[Pancho]

so you are saying the OL is fine and Arch really can't read a D?

[coachnorm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiN1x_hXrSM

He has played against scrub opposition in high school and now everything has changed for him. I believe the Eli Holstein was a better Louisiana High School Quarterback. Glad Eli is not going to be the Texas quarterback?

[Todd4State]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiN1x_hXrSM

He has played against scrub opposition in high school and now everything has changed for him. I believe the Eli Holstein was a better Louisiana High School Quarterback. Glad Eli is not going to be the Texas quarterback?

Peyton also played against the same scrub competition. The reality is Arch just isn't as good. He's a 3 star QB with a 5 star name and it just so happens to be one of the most influential names in football.

[Turfdawg67]

I saw online yesterday, didn’t verify so I don’t know how accurate, but through 6 games as a starter, Arch has almost identical stats as Peyton and Eli. Wish I knew where I saw that…

[Turfdawg67]

Here it is…

[MoreCowbell]

Here it is…

Different eras. Arch has lost 2 games

[Turfdawg67]

Different eras. Arch has lost 2 games

First 6 starts... reading comprehension.

[bulldawg28]

He'll be a totally different player next year

[coachnorm]

Could fellow elitedoggers school me up further on the first 6 starts shown in this communication? Were Eli and Payton starting earlier in their college careers? Also who were the opponents faced by the three Mannings in their 6 game window?

[Turfdawg67]

Could fellow elitedoggers school me up further on the first 6 starts shown in this communication? Were Eli and Payton starting earlier in their college careers? Also who were the opponents faced by the three Mannings in their 6 game window?

I honestly don’t care enough to look anything else up on Arch Manning. I could care less if the guy succeeds or fails in football. I just found it interesting, because I thought he was doing horrible just like everyone else.

[parabrave]

Could fellow elitedoggers school me up further on the first 6 starts shown in this communication? Were Eli and Payton starting earlier in their college careers? Also who were the opponents faced by the three Mannings in their 6 game window?

Peyton started as a true freshmen came in against UCLA after Helton got hurt and was it till he left

[Turfdawg67]

Peyton started as a true freshmen came in against UCLA after Helton got hurt and was it till he left

Are you sure? I swear I was at the game when UT played State at home. In that game, Helton got hurt and Peyton came in and beat us. I thought he took the reins then...

[Todd4State]

I honestly don’t care enough to look anything else up on Arch Manning. I could care less if the guy succeeds or fails in football. I just found it interesting, because I thought he was doing horrible just like everyone else.

It is interesting but I will say that in this era passing is more sophisticated and teams are passing more than in the 1990's/early 2000's when Peyton and Eli played.

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...ing_career.htm

I don't believe Dan Marino is the 46th best QB or all time not do I believe that Lamar Jackson is the best of time IMO. My point is there is a consistent trend with QB rating favoring players that played more recently.

Now that said I could point out that Arch has more interceptions. I think Arch is overhyped but I also at the same time think he is better than some of his detractors say he is. I think he is simply a 3 star level QB with a famous last name. He was never going to go pro after this year and he will probably play five years. Just like Eli. Peyton played four. This is how the Manning's do business and honestly it's a great way to go about it IMO. Redshirt and learn the offense, be the back up as a RS freshman and then start for three years.

[viverlibre]

Different eras. Arch has lost 2 games

For Eli, it was basically him against the other team.

[parabrave]

Are you sure? I swear I was at the game when UT played State at home. In that game, Helton got hurt and Peyton came in and beat us. I thought he took the reins then...

We are both wrong it was against Washington State according to the evil empire. And we were both right/ His 1st game he played in was against UCLA and he came off the bench against State but his 1st start was against Washington State.

[Coach34]

Are you sure? I swear I was at the game when UT played State at home. In that game, Helton got hurt and Peyton came in and beat us. I thought he took the reins then...

We hurt Helton and Manning came in. We beat Tenn that day in 1994. He went on to lead Tenn to an 8-4 record

I was there

[viverlibre]

We hurt Helton and Manning came in. We beat Tenn that day in 1994. He went on to lead Tenn to an 8-4 record

I was there

#metoo

[1eyedog]

You want a GREAT trivia question.....what “DOG” qb did what Archie or Eli could NOT do......which was win 3 straight over their rival ??....That’s right....not Eli...Not Archie.....it was DOG Chris Relf......that will get your velvet ditch friends going to the Rest room.....

[1eyedog]

It is interesting but I will say that in this era passing is more sophisticated and teams are passing more than in the 1990's/early 2000's when Peyton and Eli played.

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...ing_career.htm

I don't believe Dan Marino is the 46th best QB or all time not do I believe that Lamar Jackson is the best of time IMO. My point is there is a consistent trend with QB rating favoring players that played more recently.

Now that said I could point out that Arch has more interceptions. I think Arch is overhyped but I also at the same time think he is better than some of his detractors say he is. I think he is simply a 3 star level QB with a famous last name. He was never going to go pro after this year and he will probably play five years. Just like Eli. Peyton played four. This is how the Manning's do business and honestly it's a great way to go about it IMO. Redshirt and learn the offense, be the back up as a RS freshman and then start for three years.

Also If I’m not mistaken....Eli had a 50% Winning percentage in the pro’s......

[Coach34]

Eli only made the playoffs in 6 seasons out of 15