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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    Shipley can make better donuts than Shapen though.**

    Biggest adjustment we need to make is get Albert Reese healthy.
    Reese out was HUGE. We probably still lose but the score is a hell of a lot closer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    I mean chunking it down the field randomly and running him every time worked against Ackerman and Ethel right? So why wouldn't that work against Tennessee?*****
    Noxubee played-Starkville, Louisville, West Point--thats 3 of Mississippi's best football teams. WhenKT gets the chance to play--he will be better than Shapen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    Because he is the backup. We will not see him unless Blake is injured. We are not giving him unnecessary hits. Kamario is the gadget QB
    Gadget Qb--bullshit. He can do everything Shapen can do only better. Dude sometimes you say stupid shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcdog70 View Post
    Gadget Qb--bullshit. He can do everything Shapen can do only better. Dude sometimes you say stupid shit.
    If he was the better QB then he'd be playing. Some of you act like Lebby is purposely sabotaging his team for a kid he has no history with. If this was Dillon Gabriel or Jackson Arnold then it might hold some merit. It doesn't. Kamario just isn't ready. I know that's tough for some of you to understand but I guess the truth is tough to comprehend when it doesn't fit the narrative that Lebby hates Kamario and is sabotaging the team to play Shapen. I mean this is the same stupid ass argument I heard 9 years ago when Mullen stuck with Fitz over Dam Williams. They called Mullen a racist, said Fitz couldn't start for anyone else, said Mullen was holding the team back because Williams was better, etc.

    Kamario is a gadget QB right now. Doesn't mean he will be one next year. You know who else was a gadget QB their Freshman year? Tim Tebow. He turned out pretty good and I think it was pretty obvious then that Tebow was the far better athlete than Chris Leak. But you know who the coaches trusted to run the offense? Chris Leak. It's the same damn thing here. We have packages for Kamario, hell we saw one Saturday night but he messed up the cadence. You know why he messed it up? Because he's a Freshman in a 100K seat stadium having to make pre snap reads like never before. Kamario will be fine. He'll probably be the QB next year. But right now, Blake Shapen the best chance to win. Hell half of you were saying how poised Shapen was a month ago. Nothing changed except his O-Line got a hell of a lot worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    If he was the better QB then he'd be playing. Some of you act like Lebby is purposely sabotaging his team for a kid he has no history with. If this was Dillon Gabriel or Jackson Arnold then it might hold some merit. It doesn't. Kamario just isn't ready. I know that's tough for some of you to understand but I guess the truth is tough to comprehend when it doesn't fit the narrative that Lebby hates Kamario and is sabotaging the team to play Shapen. I mean this is the same stupid ass argument I heard 9 years ago when Mullen stuck with Fitz over Dam Williams. They called Mullen a racist, said Fitz couldn't start for anyone else, said Mullen was holding the team back because Williams was better, etc.

    Kamario is a gadget QB right now. Doesn't mean he will be one next year. You know who else was a gadget QB their Freshman year? Tim Tebow. He turned out pretty good and I think it was pretty obvious then that Tebow was the far better athlete than Chris Leak. But you know who the coaches trusted to run the offense? Chris Leak. It's the same damn thing here. We have packages for Kamario, hell we saw one Saturday night but he messed up the cadence. You know why he messed it up? Because he's a Freshman in a 100K seat stadium having to make pre snap reads like never before. Kamario will be fine. He'll probably be the QB next year. But right now, Blake Shapen the best chance to win. Hell half of you were saying how poised Shapen was a month ago. Nothing changed except his O-Line got a hell of a lot worse.
    Preach!

    The trolls are already starting rumors on sports radio that Kiffin is after KT using the same BS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapGame View Post
    Preach!

    The trolls are already starting rumors on sports radio that Kiffin is after KT using the same BS.
    And look, I'm not saying he doesn't need to be more involved. Because he does. We have plays for him, but right now it seems like we're only playing him in certain situations with those plays. We need to have him in no matter the situation if we call those plays. And we need to have a pass in there for him because otherwise teams will just stack 8 in the box every time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    And look, I'm not saying he doesn't need to be more involved. Because he does. We have plays for him, but right now it seems like we're only playing him in certain situations with those plays. We need to have him in no matter the situation if we call those plays. And we need to have a pass in there for him because otherwise teams will just stack 8 in the box every time.
    I'd love for him to have a series early in the Florida game. Get him used to the crowd. Give him a short pass to Evans and let Evans get some YAC. Give him a designed QB run. As long as he's getting first downs keep him in. After we get 3 or 6 or probably punt go back to Shapen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapGame View Post
    I'd love for him to have a series early in the Florida game. Get him used to the crowd. Give him a short pass to Evans and let Evans get some YAC. Give him a designed QB run. As long as he's getting first downs keep him in. After we get 3 or 6 or probably punt go back to Shapen.
    I wouldn't give him anything on the first 2-3 drives because usually those are scripted and we like to tempo teams when we have success with it. But I would have him something like if you have 2nd and 6 midway through the first quarter, bring him in and let him go for 2-3 plays. See what he can give you. That's exactly what Florida did with Tebow. Just looking back, they gave Tebow anywhere between 5-11 plays a game. That is kind of where we need to be with Kamario. I actually thought we should have kept him in even after we got the false start on Saturday. Have some type of quick hitter play where if your first read isn't there you take off. We still need to keep things really easy for him. You don't want him to get paralysis by analysis and be completely useless. And it's a definite possibility for a kid that is still kind of struggling with all the nuances of our system and learning where to go with the reads and understanding progressions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    I wouldn't give him anything on the first 2-3 drives because usually those are scripted and we like to tempo teams when we have success with it. But I would have him something like if you have 2nd and 6 midway through the first quarter, bring him in and let him go for 2-3 plays. See what he can give you. That's exactly what Florida did with Tebow. Just looking back, they gave Tebow anywhere between 5-11 plays a game. That is kind of where we need to be with Kamario. I actually thought we should have kept him in even after we got the false start on Saturday. Have some type of quick hitter play where if your first read isn't there you take off. We still need to keep things really easy for him. You don't want him to get paralysis by analysis and be completely useless. And it's a definite possibility for a kid that is still kind of struggling with all the nuances of our system and learning where to go with the reads and understanding progressions.
    I completely agree about keeping him in after the false start. He needed that experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    If he was the better QB then he'd be playing. Some of you act like Lebby is purposely sabotaging his team for a kid he has no history with. If this was Dillon Gabriel or Jackson Arnold then it might hold some merit. It doesn't. Kamario just isn't ready. I know that's tough for some of you to understand but I guess the truth is tough to comprehend when it doesn't fit the narrative that Lebby hates Kamario and is sabotaging the team to play Shapen. I mean this is the same stupid ass argument I heard 9 years ago when Mullen stuck with Fitz over Dam Williams. They called Mullen a racist, said Fitz couldn't start for anyone else, said Mullen was holding the team back because Williams was better, etc.

    Kamario is a gadget QB right now. Doesn't mean he will be one next year. You know who else was a gadget QB their Freshman year? Tim Tebow. He turned out pretty good and I think it was pretty obvious then that Tebow was the far better athlete than Chris Leak. But you know who the coaches trusted to run the offense? Chris Leak. It's the same damn thing here. We have packages for Kamario, hell we saw one Saturday night but he messed up the cadence. You know why he messed it up? Because he's a Freshman in a 100K seat stadium having to make pre snap reads like never before. Kamario will be fine. He'll probably be the QB next year. But right now, Blake Shapen the best chance to win. Hell half of you were saying how poised Shapen was a month ago. Nothing changed except his O-Line got a hell of a lot worse.
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    I haven't seen anyone saying change QB's. Crazy for one of the other two on sideline not be prepared for a few snaps. I hope Shapen doesn't get banged up w/o the others not having any snaps or very few.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basedog View Post
    I haven't seen anyone saying change QB's. Crazy for one of the other two on sideline not be prepared for a few snaps. I hope Shapen doesn't get banged up w/o the others not having any snaps or very few.
    Jackie always gave the backup one series usually in the 3rd qtr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    If he was the better QB then he'd be playing. Some of you act like Lebby is purposely sabotaging his team for a kid he has no history with. If this was Dillon Gabriel or Jackson Arnold then it might hold some merit. It doesn't. Kamario just isn't ready. I know that's tough for some of you to understand but I guess the truth is tough to comprehend when it doesn't fit the narrative that Lebby hates Kamario and is sabotaging the team to play Shapen. I mean this is the same stupid ass argument I heard 9 years ago when Mullen stuck with Fitz over Dam Williams. They called Mullen a racist, said Fitz couldn't start for anyone else, said Mullen was holding the team back because Williams was better, etc.

    Kamario is a gadget QB right now. Doesn't mean he will be one next year. You know who else was a gadget QB their Freshman year? Tim Tebow. He turned out pretty good and I think it was pretty obvious then that Tebow was the far better athlete than Chris Leak. But you know who the coaches trusted to run the offense? Chris Leak. It's the same damn thing here. We have packages for Kamario, hell we saw one Saturday night but he messed up the cadence. You know why he messed it up? Because he's a Freshman in a 100K seat stadium having to make pre snap reads like never before. Kamario will be fine. He'll probably be the QB next year. But right now, Blake Shapen the best chance to win. Hell half of you were saying how poised Shapen was a month ago. Nothing changed except his O-Line got a hell of a lot worse.
    Disagree. Shapen is more experienced and we may be using KT as a gadget QB but that ain't what he is.

    Lebby is too loyal to Shapen IMO. I understand why to a point but he has to put team first. When Shapen struggles like he does, a change of pace is required - whether Hawk or KT. All good coaches do it. Tyson Lee and Relf come to mind, even Russell and Dak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by parabrave View Post
    Jackie always gave the backup one series usually in the 3rd qtr.
    Yep you never know when your Sleepy will go down and Greg Plump will have to play.

    Mullen cost us the USA game that year not playing Fitz but a different situation.

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    I have no info......but it would not surprise if LK Had back channel communications......if no other reason to make the DOGS look bad by losing a potential qb and boast on social media.......he is a manipulative master......

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1eyedog View Post
    I have no info......but it would not surprise if LK Had back channel communications......if no other reason to make the DOGS look bad by losing a potential qb and boast on social media.......he is a manipulative master......
    He is having back channel communications, as are about 13 other SEC schools. Just like we are having back channel communications with players.

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    Ya'll dont seem to understand where college football is today. There are probably 15-20 schools contacting KT on a regular basis right now. It's Free Agency 24/7/365 right now
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    If the false start was a KT problem, how come only one player moved?

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    If the false start was a KT problem, how come only one player moved?
    because he is a mental midget and couldnt pay attention when we needed it most.
    Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is

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