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268 yards allowed yesterday
I was there, and I'm shocked at this number. I woulda sworn they had more than that, but they didn't. Our defense did a pretty bang up job.
Last edited by msstate7; 09-21-2025 at 08:43 AM.
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We still need a few more horses in our front seven, but I think Hutz has called some pretty good games, too.
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Originally Posted by
Jacknut
We still need a few more horses in our front seven, but I think Hutz has called some pretty good games, too.
I was there as well. It feels like that because they had several big plays called back because of penalty. We definitely need more on the DL. We do a lot of slanting for penetration. Im generally not a fan of 3 man fronts bc there fewer guys in HS that can 2 gap these days.
With that being said, if Shapen was sharper early on, this game gets out of hand much earlier.
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Their only TD came after we shanked a punt. They couldn't pass at all. Their offense looked like Croom out of the shotgun.
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
Their only TD came after we shanked a punt. They couldn't pass at all. Their offense looked like Croom out of the shotgun.
"What an ugly thing to say" about them. Harsh!!
Lol
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Originally Posted by
dawggrad08
I was there as well. It feels like that because they had several big plays called back because of penalty. We definitely need more on the DL. We do a lot of slanting for penetration. Im generally not a fan of 3 man fronts bc there fewer guys in HS that can 2 gap these days.
With that being said, if Shapen was sharper early on, this game gets out of hand much earlier.
We don't have the horses in the front 6 to run a 3-3-5 like we did a lot of yesterday. Our LBs aren't big enough or fast enough to consistently get to the hole and penetrate gaps to stop the run.
The problem is that we also routinely on 4 man fronts get the second level washed out and teams get big runs on us there as well. Whitson will be missed in this area because he was those things and could win matchups against OL.
Our focus in the portal next year needs to be between the tackles on both sides of the ball. It's where we are going to lose games this year.
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UNI actually goes have a fairly good defense for a G5 school but yes their offense is definitely Croomtastic. I had to sit through that all 4 years at State
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Originally Posted by
MetEdDawg
Our focus in the portal next year needs to be between the tackles on both sides of the ball. It's where we are going to lose games this year.
Totally agree. We will get violated often in conference play due to this.
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Remember Joe Lee Dunn's attacking 3-3-5. safety featuring safety Eric Brown, linebacker Barrin Simpson, and later another safety Ashley Cooper and others. They could flat bring pressure. Dunn was able to utilize safeties like Eric Brown, and Ashley Cooper to help offset the defenses lack of size and talent relative to some of the other SEC teams. This defense had it's share of risks but regularly brought tremendous defensive pressure, forced a lot of turnovers.
Last edited by jdelta02; 09-21-2025 at 10:16 AM.
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Thing that affected it and I might make this into its own post for Tennessee week.
We shifted into the Lebby ball control - put you to sleep offense. We had almost 300 yards rushing ourselves yesterday. All our drives were slow and methodical.
If we can ball control like that against Tennessee - we actually have a chance.
"Once the game starts, it's gonna be easy." - Lebron, July 10th, 2010
"No one ever said it's gonna be easy." - Lebron, June 12th, 2011
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Originally Posted by
jdelta02
Remember Joe Lee Dunn's attacking 3-3-5. safety featuring safety Eric Brown, linebacker Barrin Simpson, and later another safety Ashley Cooper and others. They could flat bring pressure. Dunn was able to utilize safeties like Eric Brown, and Ashley Cooper to help offset the defenses lack of size and talent relative to some of the other SEC teams. This defense had it's share of risks but regularly brought tremendous defensive pressure, forced a lot of turnovers.
That's because JLD didn't have anyone covering the TE.
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Originally Posted by
MetEdDawg
We don't have the horses in the front 6 to run a 3-3-5 like we did a lot of yesterday. Our LBs aren't big enough or fast enough to consistently get to the hole and penetrate gaps to stop the run.
The problem is that we also routinely on 4 man fronts get the second level washed out and teams get big runs on us there as well. Whitson will be missed in this area because he was those things and could win matchups against OL.
Our focus in the portal next year needs to be between the tackles on both sides of the ball. It's where we are going to lose games this year.
Go to every home game (58 years and counting). Our often hard headed decision to run a 3 man front the majority of the time will be our down fail as we begin our SEC games. There is little pass rush and we very often get gashed by the run. Hope I am wrong beginning with our game with TN. Hail State!
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Originally Posted by
Tater
Thing that affected it and I might make this into its own post for Tennessee week.
We shifted into the Lebby ball control - put you to sleep offense. We had almost 300 yards rushing ourselves yesterday. All our drives were slow and methodical.
If we can ball control like that against Tennessee - we actually have a chance.
good post and I think their ability to run consistently on us is critical next week
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Originally Posted by
Goldendawg
Go to every home game (58 years and counting). Our often hard headed decision to run a 3 man front the majority of the time will be our down fail as we begin our SEC games. There is little pass rush and we very often get gashed by the run. Hope I am wrong beginning with our game with TN. Hail State!
Of course we're gonna get gashed by tenn. They're probably the best offensive team in the sec. This game is on the offense to keep up, and our defense has play bend but don't break forcing some fgs. We are outmanned
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Originally Posted by
jdelta02
Remember Joe Lee Dunn's attacking 3-3-5. safety featuring safety Eric Brown, linebacker Barrin Simpson, and later another safety Ashley Cooper and others. They could flat bring pressure. Dunn was able to utilize safeties like Eric Brown, and Ashley Cooper to help offset the defenses lack of size and talent relative to some of the other SEC teams. This defense had it's share of risks but regularly brought tremendous defensive pressure, forced a lot of turnovers.
JLD's defense was great, UNLESS the other team had a mobile QB. Then he had major problems because his philosophy was based on having 11 defenders covering 10 offensive players. Almost all quarterbacks today are too mobile for his defense.
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Originally Posted by
1bigdawg
JLD's defense was great, UNLESS the other team had a mobile QB. Then he had major problems because his philosophy was based on having 11 defenders covering 10 offensive players. Almost all quarterbacks today are too mobile for his defense.
Remember Miss. State under Joe Lee Dunn beat South Carolina featuring the electrifying dual threat quarterback Anthony Wright. Also Wright was forced to continuously scramble and rush passes (in or out the pocket) in this game.. Dunn brought havoc defensively in this game holding South Carolina to 10 points while picking up the win. Wright was one of the hardest pocket passing quarterbacks for a defender to get hands on and tackle to come through the SEC...great passer, scrambler, and runner.
Ask Tommy Tuberville and Ole Miss, (Note) Also didn't mention Greg Favors in earlier post.....
https://x.com/garyman120/status/1684...513152?lang=ar
Last edited by jdelta02; 09-21-2025 at 12:27 PM.
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Originally Posted by
1bigdawg
JLD's defense was great, UNLESS the other team had a mobile QB. Then he had major problems because his philosophy was based on having 11 defenders covering 10 offensive players. Almost all quarterbacks today are too mobile for his defense.
Also having NFL Caliber DBs helped.
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
I was there, and I'm shocked at this number. I woulda sworn they had more than that, but they didn't. Our defense did a pretty bang up job.
UT may score 50 on us but to this point this D has flat out produced. No one has continuously gashed us. They are setting tones not seen since 18 and 99. No they are nowhere near that level but still putting early numbers. They will slip in the numbers as we play better teams but the turnaround has been remarkable.
We have some playmakers at every level, just got to do it every down.
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51 - 268 was their plays to yardage ratio
49 - 292 was our rushing plays to rushing yardage ratio
We started dominating clock and that took their offense off the field. We're better on offense so I like the ball control strategy. Prevent the other team from popping 5 YPP.
"Once the game starts, it's gonna be easy." - Lebron, July 10th, 2010
"No one ever said it's gonna be easy." - Lebron, June 12th, 2011
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
Of course we're gonna get gashed by tenn. They're probably the best offensive team in the sec. This game is on the offense to keep up, and our defense has play bend but don't break forcing some fgs. We are outmanned
I agree. I'm of the mindset that this game won't tell me anything about where we are right now. We aren't in their league yet. I'm not letting this one upset me regardless of how bad it gets.
I'll be hoping for a huge upset but expecting a blowout.
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