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    Prediction - State has two 100 yrd rushers at USM

    Lebby will be run run run imo.cant mess this one up.

    2 guys will go for 100.

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    I hope so.

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    I think we have too much depth at RB for this to happen in game 1. The carries will be spread around 4 backs. 200+ yards total rushing should be a given, but 2 backs each getting 100+ is unlikely

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    Quote Originally Posted by MStateDawg View Post
    I think we have too much depth at RB for this to happen in game 1. The carries will be spread around 4 backs. 200+ yards total rushing should be a given, but 2 backs each getting 100+ is unlikely
    1 or 2 guys break off 70+ yarders***

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    I don?t know about yards, but I can see 3 different guys with a rushing TD. Side note: did not realize Shapen had 2 last year in limited time. He was 10 TD to 1 INT last year. We could be decent this year

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    Very possibly. Need to be over 200 yards rushing fo sho
    Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is

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    Isn't Lebby mostly 60/40 run/pass? I think he sticks with his usual ratios but we will be so much better in the ground game that it looks like he's running the ball more.

    I can see one RB getting 100+ yards and two others with 40.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapGame View Post
    Isn't Lebby mostly 60/40 run/pass? I think he sticks with his usual ratios but we will be so much better in the ground game that it looks like he's running the ball more.

    I can see one RB getting 100+ yards and two others with 40.
    Analytically, last year we were 60/40 pass/run. That includes all drop backs- sacks, scrambles etc.

    At Oklahoma the year before he was 53/47 using the same metric.

    We'll see- it's hard to say IMO because Lebby has been a head coach for one year and therefore has really only had free reign on play calling for one year. That makes me think he may be more pass heavy than Oklahoma. The run/pass ratio was a little surprising to me given that Van Buren was our QB and that would make me guess that we would have been more run oriented. Situationally, passing more makes sense because we were behind often.

    My guess is we're likely going to be 55/45 pass/run.

    Yes, running backs are a strength of this team but not all their touches will be carries. Booth will line up at WR at times and he and Fluff will likely catch passes out of the backfield traditionally as well.

    Also, I think we have a strong group of WR's and TE's as well that we will target frequently. So, there shouldn't really be a reason to rely on the running backs to carry the load especially with a polished senior QB in Shapen. Now, yes- injuries may change that but I don't think Kroemenhoeck is nearly as raw as MVB was.

    I will say this- I don't expect Booth and Fluff to completely split carries evenly as well. Barring injuries. I think Booth will get slightly more touches. I don't expect this to be a Michael Davis/Kevin Bouie situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    Analytically, last year we were 60/40 pass/run. That includes all drop backs- sacks, scrambles etc.

    At Oklahoma the year before he was 53/47 using the same metric.

    We'll see- it's hard to say IMO because Lebby has been a head coach for one year and therefore has really only had free reign on play calling for one year. That makes me think he may be more pass heavy than Oklahoma. The run/pass ratio was a little surprising to me given that Van Buren was our QB and that would make me guess that we would have been more run oriented. Situationally, passing more makes sense because we were behind often.

    My guess is we're likely going to be 55/45 pass/run.

    Yes, running backs are a strength of this team but not all their touches will be carries. Booth will line up at WR at times and he and Fluff will likely catch passes out of the backfield traditionally as well.

    Also, I think we have a strong group of WR's and TE's as well that we will target frequently. So, there shouldn't really be a reason to rely on the running backs to carry the load especially with a polished senior QB in Shapen. Now, yes- injuries may change that but I don't think Kroemenhoeck is nearly as raw as MVB was.

    I will say this- I don't expect Booth and Fluff to completely split carries evenly as well. Barring injuries. I think Booth will get slightly more touches. I don't expect this to be a Michael Davis/Kevin Bouie situation.
    Not sure where you pulled those percentages but we called nearly 50/50 run to pass plays, very slightly more rushes last year. 50.13% rushes to 49.87% called passing plays. Per Team Rankings analytics

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    I highly doubt we have 2 go over 100 yds unless both Booth and Bothwell break long 50+ yd runs. There's too much depth in that room

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    Quote Originally Posted by Really Clark? View Post
    Not sure where you pulled those percentages but we called nearly 50/50 run to pass plays, very slightly more rushes last year. 50.13% rushes to 49.87% called passing plays. Per Team Rankings analytics
    https://x.com/jbuddavis/status/19588...-tihHXxpBLPOpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    Analytically, last year we were 60/40 pass/run. That includes all drop backs- sacks, scrambles etc.

    At Oklahoma the year before he was 53/47 using the same metric.

    We'll see- it's hard to say IMO because Lebby has been a head coach for one year and therefore has really only had free reign on play calling for one year. That makes me think he may be more pass heavy than Oklahoma. The run/pass ratio was a little surprising to me given that Van Buren was our QB and that would make me guess that we would have been more run oriented. Situationally, passing more makes sense because we were behind often.

    My guess is we're likely going to be 55/45 pass/run.

    Yes, running backs are a strength of this team but not all their touches will be carries. Booth will line up at WR at times and he and Fluff will likely catch passes out of the backfield traditionally as well.

    Also, I think we have a strong group of WR's and TE's as well that we will target frequently. So, there shouldn't really be a reason to rely on the running backs to carry the load especially with a polished senior QB in Shapen. Now, yes- injuries may change that but I don't think Kroemenhoeck is nearly as raw as MVB was.

    I will say this- I don't expect Booth and Fluff to completely split carries evenly as well. Barring injuries. I think Booth will get slightly more touches. I don't expect this to be a Michael Davis/Kevin Bouie situation.
    We were more pass oriented last year because of Van Buren. He couldn't throw the short to intermediate passes so if we didn't get 5-7 yards on 1st down with a run we were basically chunking deep balls the rest of the drive.

    I think you will see an offense this year that mirrors the OM offense of 2021, albeit less designed QB runs. I think we'll be somewhere in the range of 53-58/47-42 run/pass. Jeff and Co know we have a stable of very HIGH LEVEL running backs and they are really going to lean on them. Especially early on when we are still seeing what receivers separate themselves.

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    I hope it?s closer to 70 30 Run pass with the pass game being quick game, RPO and shot plays off hard play action, max protect. We have a big OL 3 SEC backs and some speed at WR. I don?t see what else we should do

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    And 3 TEs that can play

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB**** View Post
    I hope it?s closer to 70 30 Run pass with the pass game being quick game, RPO and shot plays off hard play action, max protect. We have a big OL 3 SEC backs and some speed at WR. I don?t see what else we should do
    That is way too high imo. Maybe if it is the LK or KT package but you are leaving a lot on the table with a 5th year QB doing that

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    Question for the board.

    Do we currently have better backs than Oklahoma during Lebby's tenure there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapGame View Post
    Question for the board.

    Do we currently have better backs than Oklahoma during Lebby's tenure there?
    Eric Gray may have been a better top end feature back than Booth or Bothwell CURRENTLY, but this will be the best overall room Lebby has ever had. Going all the way back to Baylor.

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    Yes, without looking them up.
    OL though? Don't know.

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    Bless your heart *****

    But I'll be there in the off chance it does happen.

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    this sounds like a good sub bet for BYA. Is there gonna be any this year?

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