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If Kamario is the real deal
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Remember when people were shocked Saban got paid 3.7M to coach at Bama? Then everyone else started paying that for HCs too. Remember everyone freaking out at OCs/DCs making over a million? Then that became the norm. Remember Newton making $180k? Now that's like, what it takes to keep the backup. NIL is the same- starting out, everyone thinks a few hundred K should be enough. Well guess what, even Vandy boosters now pay 2M for a QB that can help them barely become bowl eligible.
This entire time, all we had to do was see the trend of bigger spending and actually get ahead of it. Instead, State (and most of college football, to be fair) go "what do we have to spend to not be embarrassing?". Well guess what? The NIL it takes to "not be embarrassing" in 2025 could have been enough to put us ahead of the game in 2021, but our boosters wanted to pretend they wouldn't get to 2025 spending so held off on it. Vandy too- they could have had a Heisman level QB for $2m if they just accepted reality 4 years earlier.
Like I have no right to complain about boosters who all give infinitely more than me. I understand they're giving a lot and get nothing back. But like, they aren't giving to get a return, they're giving out of a desire to see us win, or at least not be a joke. Every year they look at the college athletics landscape and somehow decide to give even more than the "a lot' they already were. If we could just get them to mentally jump ahead 4-5 years and start donating that now, we could actually compete. If I was rich, I'd rather donate $0 or enough to make us fun to watch vs an amount that will make us go 7-5. What's the point in that?
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How much did we pay Chrome-in-hawk? Wasn't the speculation it was close to $1mil?
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After reading those costs for a quarter back that are 18-20yrs old imo is beyond stupid. This escalation of paying college football players stupid amounts of money and they can leave at any time is just plain wrong. It actually makes me mad that college football players will make in one year what most people make in half time of working their whole adult life. While a lot of college regular college students come out of college with a debt.
This also goes for the amounts being paid for head coaches and assistant coaches. It’s just stupid. I hope the whole system implodes on its self and we can stop this runaway train.
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I couldn?t imagine a lot of people spending that type of money for 8-4 seasons? I could be wrong and there could be THAT many stupid, but rich, people in the world.
Most rich folks expect a return on investment.
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Originally Posted by
Ranchdawg
After reading those costs for a quarter back that are 18-20yrs old imo is beyond stupid. This escalation of paying college football players stupid amounts of money and they can leave at any time is just plain wrong. It actually makes me mad that college football players will make in one year what most people make in half time of working their whole adult life. While a lot of college regular college students come out of college with a debt.
This also goes for the amounts being paid for head coaches and assistant coaches. It’s just stupid. I hope the whole system implodes on its self and we can stop this runaway train.
I totally agree, I am turned off about college football now days. Fact is I can't name 3 players on our roster, that is kind of sad, but this NIL is a killer for me. I want see or watch the first two games, I will be in Alaska enjoying life with my wife and friends. I will watch our games when I get back but no longer buy season tickets. I am more interested in basketball and of course baseball has me excited.
Lastly, I will always pull for Msu but it want kill me when we lose anymore. I graduated in 1973, and I have been retired for a couple years, enjoying life and traveling is way more fun than watching the NIL kill college sports.
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Originally Posted by
basedog
I totally agree, I am turned off about college football now days. Fact is I can't name 3 players on our roster, that is kind of sad, but this NIL is a killer for me. I want see or watch the first two games, I will be in Alaska enjoying life with my wife and friends. I will watch our games when I get back but no longer buy season tickets. I am more interested in basketball and of course baseball has me excited.
Lastly, I will always pull for Msu but it want kill me when we lose anymore. I graduated in 1973, and I have been retired for a couple years, enjoying life and traveling is way more fun than watching the NIL kill college sports.
Ditto. I have almost zero interest in college football anymore due to nil and portal. I have other things that interest me more in my retirement. I guess we are beating a dead horse at this point tho as there is no going back.
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It's the transfer portal that's the issue. NIL doesn't spiral to these amounts without free range free agency driving the cost of securing transfer players / keeping your own.
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So if a large group of fans wanted to file a class action lawsuit to try and stop this, who would the suit have to target?
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Originally Posted by
viverlibre
How much did we pay Chrome-in-hawk? Wasn't the speculation it was close to $1mil?
I don't know the spot on number but from everything I've heard it was mid 6 figures.
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Off subject, but that Vandy QB looks like he's 35.
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Originally Posted by
msudawglb
Off subject, but that Vandy QB looks like he's 35.
Well hell by the time he stops suing for additional eligibility he probably will be. Because I can guarantee you he's going to try to get another year. He's going to try to get both his NMMI years erased and get a COVID year to give him 5 years.
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Originally Posted by
Dawgface
Ditto. I have almost zero interest in college football anymore due to nil and portal. I have other things that interest me more in my retirement. I guess we are beating a dead horse at this point tho as there is no going back.
Yep. I saw the writing on the wall when Kylin Hill got the whole state to grovel from White guilt and change the state flag instead of telling the little jackass to STFU and play football. Then he still quit after 5 games. I was horrified. And now we have to pay players, they get unlimited transfers and you have to renegotiate with them (be extorted by them) every year? Nope. I'm done. I'm way more excited by the Premier League than college football. Never thought I'd say that, but here I am.
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Originally Posted by
Really Clark?
It's the transfer portal that's the issue. NIL doesn't spiral to these amounts without free range free agency driving the cost of securing transfer players / keeping your own.
It's both. Players are always going to follow the money. MVB is willing to sit on the bench and take more money than he would to start for us this year.
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Originally Posted by
War Machine Dawg
It's both. Players are always going to follow the money. MVB is willing to sit on the bench and take more money than he would to start for us this year.
He wanted an outrageous sum to stay and a guaranteed starter position. Lebby doesn't play those bullshit games.
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Originally Posted by
TrapGame
He wanted an outrageous sum to stay and a guaranteed starter position. Lebby doesn't play those bullshit games.
Not really. He got that much to be LSU's back-up. That's the cost of having guys that can play.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Not really. He got that much to be LSU's back-up. That's the cost of having guys that can play.
Not the story that was floating on this board.
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I fully support Lebby not naming him the starter- but the money aspect was in no way outrageous given today's market
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